Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: possible rape (Rosa from FF4 was supposedly raped by Golbez when kidnapped by him and Kane, but SE made them cut the allusion to it), There was nothing in the remake that even makes that seem like a possibility. After googling it seems like something that was spread around without any proof. Like it was just made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Maybe the outfits were just too practical. Honestly, if it's anything it's probably this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Oh man I fucking WISH. Unfortunately Yasumi Matsuno (creator of Ogre Battle, Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story, and FF12) has left Square Enix and Vagrant Story has been all but forgotten but that'd be a proper Square Enix game! Supposedly a Star Ocean The Second Story is getting a remaster so maybe it's just an inevitable thing once they remember it exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just completed the FFXVI demo and I definitely have some thoughts about it that I'll share tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I definitely have some thoughts Pfffft, yeah right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I definitely have some thoughts about it Is it “wtf is wrong with Japan?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Just completed the FFXVI demo and I definitely have some thoughts about it that I'll share tomorrow as I'm quite tired now. Do tell… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Final Fantasy 16 is going to have a Day One patch, after all - Xfire WWW.XFIRE.COM However, the Day One patch isn't necessary to play the game and is a Also, they mentioned more changes are coming based on the feedback from the Demo. Adjusting motion blur and the ability to turn it off Camera movement speed and an option to turn off auto-follow Key bindings But these 3 most likely won't be included in this patch, would be nice if it did though No Japanese lip sync. He recommends playing in English whatever your native language is and using subtitles in your language as English was prioritized for motion capture and acting performances They are confident you will enjoy the story if you enjoyed the demo, the demo was not “front loaded” in terms of story and engagement However, there will be more gameplay than what was shown in the demo They are taking performance issue feedback seriously and hope to have a patch out to address this - 300mb DAY ONE PATCH confirmed They are also going to address motion blur concerns and add a toggle if they can They are listening to feedback about button mapping and said they will provide more button layouts, the ability to remap yourself, or both Optimized for HDR, recommends using HDR display if you have one Bloody Palace equivalent (basically a wave based gauntlet mode for those unfamiliar) NG+ mode that offers new challenge, including new bosses, new enemy placements, and new moves on existing bosses Prologue can be skipped in NG+ NG+ gives you a “score” and rating based on action performance on the top right, this was turned off by default on NG because they didn’t want you obsessing over it and wanted players to focus on the story The controversial Liquid Flame “cinematic dodge” thing was due to the result of an equip-able accessory that enhances your dodge, totally optional The livestream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I finished the demo. And out of supposedly a 2-3 hr demo I actually played literally less than 20 minutes. That's not good at all. I get the opening might be front loaded with exposition but damn, that's not a great way to promote your game by having an watchable demo. Should have been a part of the game with 2-3 hrs of you know.. Gameplay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, eventide11 said: that's not a great way to promote your game Well, I mean, it is. People are loving it. It is widely successful. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Bacon said: Well, I mean, it is. People are loving it. It is widely successful. I'm about to fire the demo up. I'm not under the influence so I'm excited. Cutscenes were great so I'm fine with how this demo is set up. I'll post small impressions later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bacon said: Well, I mean, it is. People are loving it. It is widely successful. Good for them. I just hope it's not a hype thing just because it's Final Fantasy but once the reality sets in they see it for what it is. Kinda like what happened with FF15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Anyway, I'll quit poo pooing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, eventide11 said: Anyway, I'll quit poo pooing Nah, if you don't like it you don't like it. It's why I only quoted the part that said it wasn't a great way. No gonna tell ya to like something you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, best3444 said: I'm about to fire the demo up. I'm not under the influence so I'm excited. Cutscenes were great so I'm fine with how this demo is set up. I'll post small impressions later. About fucking time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, eventide11 said: Good for them. I just hope it's not a hype thing just because it's Final Fantasy but once the reality sets in they see it for what it is. Kinda like what happened with FF15 Nah it will be lots better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 hours ago, Bacon said: There was nothing in the remake that even makes that seem like a possibility. After googling it seems like something that was spread around without any proof. Like it was just made up. Nahh, Sakaguchi definitely talked about it in an interview decades ago. Around the time he left square and started Mistwalker. He was talking about how with his own studio he would be able to to explore themes that Squaresoft had prevented him from because they worried about public outcry. I think is was an RPGamer.com (used to be my favorite site for rpg news) interview, and it was definitely around the time he founded mistwalker. I never played the remake, and it wasn’t done by Sakaguchi, but like I said, he said they made him cut any mention of assault from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, eventide11 said: Good for them. I just hope it's not a hype thing just because it's Final Fantasy but once the reality sets in they see it for what it is. Kinda like what happened with FF15 I mean, ff15 was the definition of development hell and nomura bullshit. I don’t remember a lot of hype around 15, just lots of disappointment. But comparing games made by completely different teams is a bit weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I was never excited for 15 and what little I played (the beginning of the game) was enough to make me never want to touch it again. Shame it wasn't actually Final Fantasy versus 13 and got repurposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 52 minutes ago, eventide11 said: I finished the demo. And out of supposedly a 2-3 hr demo I actually played literally less than 20 minutes. That's not good at all. I get the opening might be front loaded with exposition but damn, that's not a great way to promote your game by having an watchable demo. Should have been a part of the game with 2-3 hrs of you know.. Gameplay I mean, theres about an hour of gameplay in a two hour demo, so you played more than 20 minutes, and theres a whole separate gameplay challenge demo after the prologue demo. But it’s a great way to promote it, it literally increased hype for the game everywhere in the gaming sphere. You don’t have to enjoy it, certainly, but your opinion is the opposite of the reality the public opinion so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BloodyHell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: I was never excited for 15 and what little I played (the beginning of the game) was enough to make me never want to touch it again. Shame it wasn't actually Final Fantasy versus 13 and got repurposed. Yeah, I don’t remember any hype, just a game everyone thought was boring and bland from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: I mean, ff15 was the definition of development hell and nomura bullshit. I don’t remember a lot of hype around 15, just lots of disappointment. But comparing games made by completely different teams is a bit weird. With as much as this series changes hands I can't keep up. I guess I miss the days when FFs were more consistent with Sakiguchi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 @Commissar SFLUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: I mean, theres about an hour of gameplay in a two hour demo, so you played more than 20 minutes, and theres a whole separate gameplay challenge demo after the prologue demo. But it’s a great way to promote it, it literally increased hype for the game everywhere in the gaming sphere. You don’t have to enjoy it, certainly, but your opinion is the opposite of the reality the public opinion so far. No way I actually played for an hour. Maybe I got through the battles faster than 'normal' but I didn't play for an hour. I spent WAAAY more time watching than playing. I do really want to like the game though I know it doesn't sound like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I wouldn't say there is an hour of combat in the demo. 45 minutes at most with the Eikonic challenge. I'm not considering the Eikon battle at the end of the story as real combat either. It was just hold shoot and dodge. Liked it a lot thematically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Finally beat it. I really liked it a lot. The story already has me intrigued and for a demo, a lot of important things happen. It's all really well done with great voice acting. I decided to play in graphics mode and I'm completely fine with 30fps. The visuals are probably the best on the console yet and the effects in this are awesome. The combat is actually pretty damn solid and well done. I also appreciated the difficulty in this because I usually struggle in this genre. I definitely want to know what happens next so that is more important than any other positive imo. Phenomenal game so far. I might even play through it again tomorrow that's how much I enjoyed it. The soundtrack in this is utterly beautiful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, best3444 said: Finally beat it. I really liked it a lot. The story already has me intrigued and for a demo, a lot of important things happen. It's all really well done with great voice acting. I decided to play in graphics mode and I'm completely fine with 30fps. The visuals are probably the best on the console yet and the effects in this are awesome. The combat is actually pretty damn solid and well done. I also appreciated the difficulty in this because I usually struggle in this genre. I definitely want to know what happens next so that is more important than any other positive imo. Phenomenal game so far. I might even play through it again tomorrow that's how much I enjoyed it. The soundtrack in this is utterly beautiful. Buying it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 hour ago, best3444 said: The visuals are probably the best on the console yet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Biggie said: Buying it? Absolutely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 hours ago, eventide11 said: I finished the demo. And out of supposedly a 2-3 hr demo I actually played literally less than 20 minutes. That's not good at all. I get the opening might be front loaded with exposition but damn, that's not a great way to promote your game by having an watchable demo. Should have been a part of the game with 2-3 hrs of you know.. Gameplay I personally agree with you but almost every person/article I've seen is saying it's one if not the single best demo ever. I would've much preferred more gameplay but if this helps them sell extra copies I'm all for it, I already knew I was buying it anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, eventide11 said: I finished the demo. And out of supposedly a 2-3 hr demo I actually played literally less than 20 minutes. That's not good at all. I get the opening might be front loaded with exposition but damn, that's not a great way to promote your game by having an watchable demo. Should have been a part of the game with 2-3 hrs of you know.. Gameplay There’s a whole other part that unlocks after you finish the story that’s literally nothing but gameplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: There’s a whole other part that unlocks after you finish the story that’s literally nothing but gameplay. I know. But I felt like that stuff might be spoilery if I end up caving and getting it. Which is inevitable 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, eventide11 said: But I felt like that stuff might be spoilery Not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, eventide11 said: I know. But I felt like that stuff might be spoilery if I end up caving and getting it. Which is inevitable I stayed away also. I knew by the end of the demo I was getting it so what’s the point of playing more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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