b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 TikTok is a national emergency but COVID isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 As I mention in another thread, this is very dangerous and damaging. It needs to be legally challenged by other parts of the government or it will set a damaging president. Already china is already looking to possibly retaliate against tech companies in china including MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, chakoo said: As I mention in another thread, this is very dangerous and damaging. It needs to be legally challenged by other parts of the government or it will set a damaging president. Already china is already looking to possibly retaliate against tech companies in china including MS. But Trump will be able to crow how he got a bigly cut of the aborted deal for the Treasury, Microsoft's landlord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Wonder if this is relevant when it comes to political advertising on Facebook When was the last time Zuck spoke to anyone in the White House? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Wonder if this is relevant when it comes to political advertising on Facebook When was the last time Zuck spoke to anyone in the White House? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 https://www.engadget.com/instagram-bug-heavily-favored-trump-content-over-biden-172758201.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 But her free market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Wonder if this is relevant when it comes to political advertising on Facebook When was the last time Zuck spoke to anyone in the White House? I would say Reels will flop, but I thought the same about Instagram stories and it obviously didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Trump going after Tencent properties as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Um, doesn't tencent invest heavily in us tech and gaming companies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: Um, doesn't tencent invest heavily in us tech and gaming companies? Lol yes they own part of everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Um, doesn't tencent invest heavily in us tech and gaming companies? Yes. I initially was going to make a comparison that what trump is doing would be like him coming in and demanding Epic must sell off any foreign own investments to a US entity or be shutdown. Well now I don't need to make that comparison because it's already fucking happened. https://www.pcgamer.com/every-game-company-that-tencent-has-invested-in/ <- this is out of date even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 It sounded like Mnuchin had talked Trump out of this as of a couple of days ago, so I wonder who Trump's talked to since then. Honestly, just brazenly taking a bribe from Facebook probably makes the most sense out of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: It sounded like Mnuchin had talked Trump out of this as of a couple of days ago, so I wonder who Trump's talked to since then. Honestly, just brazenly taking a bribe from Facebook probably makes the most sense out of anything. The bribe is bugs that favor Trump on FB/Insta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Some specific numbers on that Tencent $ Maybe Trump just unknowingly mobilized an army of previously apolitical gen-Z Valorant players against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Like every other Executive Order written by this administration, it's not exactly clear what is being prohibited. Does this mean that EVERY transaction with the TenCent holding company is prohibited or only those that are specifically related to WeChat? I can actually read the text both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: It sounded like Mnuchin had talked Trump out of this as of a couple of days ago, so I wonder who Trump's talked to since then. Honestly, just brazenly taking a bribe from Facebook probably makes the most sense out of anything. I bet Peter Navarro is the instigator. He despises Chy-nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ricofoley Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 So 82-year old Wilbur Ross is going to going to determine which tech properties are affected by this? Yeah, that'll go well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Some specific numbers on that Tencent $ Maybe Trump just unknowingly mobilized an army of previously apolitical gen-Z Valorant players against him Tencent also has a stake in reddit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Ricofoley said: So 82-year old Wilbur Ross is going to going to determine which tech properties are affected by this? Yeah, that'll go well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Isn't Ross also one of the most heavily implicated people as having profited off of Trump's tariff announcements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 "QUICK EVERYBODY WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS TENCENT COMPANY WORKS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Isn't Ross also one of the most heavily implicated people as having profited off of Trump's tariff announcements? Wilbur Ross confirmed developing his own team FPS 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 He better not be coming for Alibaba next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Joe said: He better not be coming for Alibaba next. He wants to take down Baidu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Doesn't Mnuchin have connections with Tencent during his EP'ing of movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Littleronin said: Doesn't Mnuchin have connections with Tencent during his EP'ing of movies. Everyone in this travesty of an administration has illicit connections with some horrible people. It's just a giant, ouroboros-tentacle-porn of grift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/facebook-zuckerberg-what-if-trump-disputes-election-results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ghost_MH Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 1:26 PM, Jason said: Not having Facebook is nice. Also, I do appreciate that Twitter allows me to run the app with all permissions set to disabled. The only thing I allow Twitter to do is shoot me notifications. One thing I saw mentioned elsewhere but not here was that this ban could really kill Apple's entire Chinese market. Android-based phones, even those made by Google, can always just sideload apps like Tiktok and WeChat. Since Apple controls the entire ecosystem, that won't be possible. We're about to see two of the most popular apps in the China just stop working on every iPhone in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chakoo Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: One thing I saw mentioned elsewhere but not here was that this ban could really kill Apple's entire Chinese market. Android-based phones, even those made by Google, can always just sideload apps like Tiktok and WeChat. Since Apple controls the entire ecosystem, that won't be possible. We're about to see two of the most popular apps in the China just stop working on every iPhone in the country. This ban won't because that is not how either of these companies work. WeChat due to WePay is tied in with banks with china for all transactions, far as I know you can't do any transaction in the app anymore without a chinese bank account. Second TikTok does not run/exist in china. Due to the nature of how china is, when TikTok creator ByteDance was looking to bring Douyin (The platform in china) to the west, they spun up a clone of the platform which is TikTok. So TT shutting down has no direct impact on Douyin in china. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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