CitizenVectron Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Very smart move during a massive economic downturn. I wonder what set him off. Probably Canada keeping the border closed to Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 I can only assume that Trudeau will do the same thing as last time and counter with tariffs that hit red states. Probably a good idea with the election so close. Canada should take this opportunity to hit back on softwood lumber, really hit the US housing market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 lol Such a bunch of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Man Trump is such a cuck to big aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, Littleronin said: Man Trump is such a cuck to big aluminum. He is laser-focused on it for some reason. I think it's because of that one story he keeps telling about people smuggling in thousands of tonnes of steel or aluminum from Mexico and burying it in the desert or something. I think he thinks that Canadian companies are running an underground railroad (maybe literally) of giant ingots of aluminum, and selling them on the US black market. It's like his understanding of "steam" power vs magnetic rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 46 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I wonder what set him off. He's losing bigly on COVID and tariffs are something he can do without having to go through anyone else and that he thinks are politically popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I just want my Mello Yello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Canada responds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Trade wars are even better and easier to win when the economy is in the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 He must have needed some cheap stock real quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 I guarantee Canada will come out ahead on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland has pointed out that NAFTA2 specifically opens the US auto manufacturing market to Canadian aluminum. So basically, Canada out-maneuvered Trump on NAFTA2, and he is only now figuring it out. So the tariffs likely violate the agreement, and Canada can take the US to a tribunal and win damages (on top of the counter-tariffs)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland has pointed out that NAFTA2 specifically opens the US auto manufacturing market to Canadian aluminum. So basically, Canada out-maneuvered Trump on NAFTA2, and he is only now figuring it out. So the tariffs likely violate the agreement, and Canada can take the US to a tribunal and win damages (on top of the counter-tariffs)? 1 hour ago, Jason said: Trade wars are even better and easier to win when the economy is in the toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Just now, Jason said: From CBC article: Quote American business groups largely oppose Trump's plan, since it will raise costs of the metal for U.S. manufacturers, who will have little option but to pay the tariff and import the metal anyway because the U.S. does not produce enough of the metal to satisfy domestic demand. So Americans will pay more...and Canadian companies will still get paid. A true American victory! https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-aluminum-tariff-1.5677036 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: From CBC article: So Americans will pay more...and Canadian companies will still get paid. A true American victory! https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/trump-aluminum-tariff-1.5677036 Seems like a good time to re-up this: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/06/01/donald-trump-deals-negotiation-art-of-deal-218584 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 https://www.cp24.com/news/we-ll-kick-their-butts-all-over-the-place-ontario-premier-lashes-out-at-donald-trump-over-tariffs-1.5055353 I take this partly as fluff but still, I mean who knew trade wars were so easy to win (against trump). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 7, 2020 Author Share Posted August 7, 2020 Canadian government consulting citizens and businesses: What do you want us to put tariffs on? Quote The consultations list includes: Household washing machines, not including machines which both wash and dry, of a dry linen capacity not exceeding 10 kg, fully-automatic Bicycles and other cycles Bicycle wheels Golf clubs, complete Articles for sports and general physical exercise (e.g., bats, hockey sticks, playground equipment) Refrigerators, household type, compression type Monopods, bipods, tripods of aluminum Embossed aluminum cans for use in the packaging of beverages Metal furniture of a kind used in offices Aluminum ores and concentrates Slag, ash and residues, containing mainly aluminum Aluminum tube or pipe fittings Aluminum doors, windows and their frames and thresholds for doors Aluminum containers for compressed or liquefied gas Aluminum nails, tacks, staples (other than those of heading 83.05), screws, bolts, nuts, screw hooks, rivets, cotters, cotter-pins, washers and similar articles The remaining items are variations of those listed above. Freeland said it’s ironic that Americans will be negatively impacted by the tariffs Trump announced. "Any American who buys a can of beer or soda or a car or a bike will suffer. In fact, the very washing machines manufactured at the Whirlpool plant where the president made his announcement yesterday, will become more expensive for Americans and less competitive with machines produced elsewhere in the world. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Canadian government consulting citizens and businesses: What do you want us to put tariffs on? Find out whatever affects swing states the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, 69los said: Find out whatever affects swing states the most. Swing state rednecks aren't buying washing machines, they use a tub and washboard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Q: "What borders on complete stupidity" A: "Canada and Mexico" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I was reminded that there's a Russian-owned aluminum plant in Kentucky. https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5651345/rusal-investment-braidy-kentucky/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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