Guest Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 https://www.tesla.com/support/autopilot Quote The currently enabled features require active driver supervision and do not make the vehicle autonomous. The activation and use of these features are dependent on achieving reliability far in excess of human drivers as demonstrated by billions of miles of experience, as well as regulatory approval, which may take longer in some jurisdictions. As these self-driving features evolve, your car will be continuously upgraded through over-the-air software updates. The vehicles themselves are even more in your face about the capabilities of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 If you have the money to buy a Tesla and you're not reading the fine print on the autopilot and letting the machine take over, by all means kill yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If you have the money to buy a Tesla and you're not reading the fine print on the autopilot and letting the machine take over, by all means kill yourself Consumers are definitely known for meticulously reading EULAs before proceeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 It’s not even fine print! It’s more conspicuous while driving than how to change the radio station or use the navigation search. It also automatically turns itself off after 10-15 seconds of not having your hands on the wheel and then the functionality is disabled for the rest of the drive as punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s not even fine print! It’s more conspicuous while driving than how to change the radio station or use the navigation search. It also automatically turns itself off after 10-15 seconds of not having your hands on the wheel and then the functionality is disabled for the rest of the drive as punishment Lol what's the point then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Tesla’s Autopilot is ‘easily’ tricked into working without anyone in the driver’s seat WWW.THEVERGE.COM Autopilot can be tricked into thinking there’s someone in the driver’s seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Lol what's the point then Marketing? I mean, I am glad lots of new cars are adding adaptive cruise control and lane maintain. It’s a more comfortable way to drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Tesla’s Autopilot is ‘easily’ tricked into working without anyone in the driver’s seat WWW.THEVERGE.COM Autopilot can be tricked into thinking there’s someone in the driver’s seat. Ahh yes, shifting the goal posts! Now it’s not that people are confused by the capabilities and will do dangerous things because of it, they actually understand the limitations and will defeat the safety measures to make it do what it’s not designed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Marketing? I mean, I am glad lots of new cars are adding adaptive cruise control and lane maintain. It’s a more comfortable way to drive. Oh man I know comfort. I drive a damn minivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SimpleG Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 How do this many idiots not know how to use a round about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 16 hours ago, Uaarkson said: #progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 The Electric Slide: Car Culture Captures Climate Policy | The American Conservative WWW.THEAMERICANCONSERVATIVE.COM A move to electric vehicles doubles down on suburbanization and misses an opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: The Electric Slide: Car Culture Captures Climate Policy | The American Conservative WWW.THEAMERICANCONSERVATIVE.COM A move to electric vehicles doubles down on suburbanization and misses an opportunity. The shift to electric cars not benefiting a lot of people who live in apartments is not something I've thought about before. I'm still not sure I buy the overall point, though - that electronic cars increase suburbanization, so we shouldn't do it. 1) people who don't drive already aren't going to start because of electronic cars. 2) If we can compound a shift to electronic cars with things like increased ride share opportunities and better mass transit, that's still a good thing. "Por que no los dos" essentially. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Electronic cars are fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Fizzzzle said: The shift to electric cars not benefiting a lot of people who live in apartments is not something I've thought about before. I'm still not sure I buy the overall point, though - that electronic cars increase suburbanization, so we shouldn't do it. 1) people who don't drive already aren't going to start because of electronic cars. 2) If we can compound a shift to electronic cars with things like increased ride share opportunities and better mass transit, that's still a good thing. "Por que no los dos" essentially. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. There's a whole bunch of people who want to use electric cars + "fully self driving cars are coming any day now!" as an excuse to not change anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Jason said: There's a whole bunch of people who want to use electric cars + "fully self driving cars are coming any day now!" as an excuse to not change anything else. yeah, but if it weren’t electric cars it’d be something else. the only thing that’s going to rein in car dependent suburbia is the fast-approaching mass municipal bankruptcy crisis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jason said: There's a whole bunch of people who want to use electric cars + "fully self driving cars are coming any day now!" as an excuse to not change anything else. I'm not saying we shouldn't change anything else. And maybe you're right that people will go "self driving electric cars = job done!" I just don't think that makes it a road not worth taking. We can have all of the above, and we should strive for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Uaarkson said: yeah, but if it weren’t electric cars it’d be something else. the only thing that’s going to rein in car dependent suburbia is the fast-approaching mass municipal bankruptcy crisis It won't be with a bang but a whimper. Crumbling infrastructure, and using proffers to growth ponzi and kick the can down the road 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Quote Three women from the Oxford Pedestrians Association staged their protest at Oriel Square on Saturday to stop cars illegally passing through the road to avoid the functional traffic cameras on the High Street. Bollards there are meant to rise between 7.30am and 6.30pm, only being lowered for emergency vehicles and other vehicles with permitted access, but have been broken for ‘about four years’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Lyft is getting out of the self-driving business ARSTECHNICA.COM Lyft will save about $100 million without its self-driving project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The entire premise of why Uber and Lyft were supposed to be valued the way they were when their IPOs happened even though they both lose money was that they were both going to develop self-driving cars in like a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: The entire premise of why Uber and Lyft were supposed to be valued the way they were when their IPOs happened even though they both lose money was that they were both going to develop self-driving cars in like a year. From September 2016: Lyft says robots will drive most of its cars in five years WWW.VOX.COM Expect to see semi-autonomous vehicles driving on fixed routes by 2017 in a subscription model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 The fact that Lyft has trouble being profitable is baffling to me. 90% of their business is literally just processing transactions. It's like telling me that paypal or gofundme isn't making money. Or maybe they don't either, I don't know. That said, it does make sense to offload the direct cost of their driverless program to someone else and have them fold it back into their service if/when it comes to fruition is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 local news lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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