Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Lol didn't that Ninja twerp leave Twitch to join and promote this? This didn't last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I wouldn’t mind if twitch became less popular but fuck Facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 100 bajillion dollars for Ninjer and Shroud and now they can go back to twitch Literally laughing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Wow. I didn't think it was going well, but I guess paying for Ninja and Shroud really was a hail Mary that didn't convert. I'd love some competition for Twitch, but when YouTube and Microsoft can't do it, it's hard to see how that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, TwinIon said: Wow. I didn't think it was going well, but I guess paying for Ninja and Shroud really was a hail Mary that didn't convert. I'd love some competition for Twitch, but when YouTube and Microsoft can't do it, it's hard to see how that happens. Don't more people watch games on Youtube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TwinIon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Don't more people watch games on Youtube? I know YouTube closed down their separate gaming app after four years, and I think they've been struggling to get their live streaming numbers up, despite a number of high profile efforts like bringing over the Overwatch League. There is a ton of gaming content on Youtube, as it's still by far the best way to monetize videos, but I think it's fair to say they've struggled to compete against Twitch, despite having a far larger overall platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 ayylmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: lol did they get paid in full for whatever insane amount of money they were bought for? accidental grifting lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Now that is very Ninja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Firewithin said: lol did they get paid in full for whatever insane amount of money they were bought for? accidental grifting lol What I've read indicates that they got the full payment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Welp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: What I've read indicates that they got the full payment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Sources: Facebook offered an insane offer at almost double for the original Mixer contracts of Ninja and Shroud but Loaded/Ninja/Shroud said no and forced Mixer to buy them out. Ninja made ~$30M from Mixer, and Shroud made ~$10MNinja and Shroud are now free agents— Rod "4475 SR & Immortal peak" Breslau (@Slasher) June 22, 2020 Goddamn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I know YouTube closed down their separate gaming app after four years, and I think they've been struggling to get their live streaming numbers up, despite a number of high profile efforts like bringing over the Overwatch League. There is a ton of gaming content on Youtube, as it's still by far the best way to monetize videos, but I think it's fair to say they've struggled to compete against Twitch, despite having a far larger overall platform. That makes sense. I enjoy streaming alot. I tend to find people via youtube though then migrate to follow on Twitch. They all mainly stream there some will start on youtube then migrate to twitch. I used to watch VulcanHD gaming because he would stream Steel Division but he has dropped youtube for twitch. He still has videos on youtube and puts out new content but his streams are solely on twitch. I wish I could stream but I tend to rage quit at time. Nothing like losing Settra to a 3 stack of savage orcs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaethos Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I almost never watch a live stream, too much dead time and bs. I pretty much just watch YouTube uploads of streams so I can pause when I want and skip the bs. Twitch and YouTube being more or less monopolies is rather annoying though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Whats being lost, is this is also part of a bigger initiative between Xbox and Facebook, and xCloud. Now instead of all the Moms and Dads playing Candy Crush, they can get Game Pass Subscriptions and play Halo on Facebook. This is how they potentially scale up Game Pass subscriptions, being integrated with Facebook gaming. At least I think that would be the plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarkStar189 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Feels like a real Google move. Shits not working out, pull the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 38 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: Feels like a real Google move. Shits not working out, pull the plug. This is quite different than Google in one very significant respect: MS is selling the operation instead of just killing it outright which is what Google would do (I'm looking at you, Stadia!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 hours ago, JPDunks4 said: Whats being lost, is this is also part of a bigger initiative between Xbox and Facebook, and xCloud. Now instead of all the Moms and Dads playing Candy Crush, they can get Game Pass Subscriptions and play Halo on Facebook. This is how they potentially scale up Game Pass subscriptions, being integrated with Facebook gaming. At least I think that would be the plan. Yup. Stadia integrates with Youtube, Microsoft was probably looking for an alternative hub. Facebook probably needs it as much as Microsoft, to stay relevant with younger audiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Ninja is a whiny dick tip but good on him for getting his money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Stadia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: This is quite different than Google in one very significant respect: MS is selling the operation instead of just killing it outright which is what Google would do (I'm looking at you, Stadia!) Google will probably roll Stadia into a GCP offering before straight up killing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Pretty disappoint news. I know not many people watched Mixer but they had some good people on there. Like I said when they bought Ninja, when they got him it kind of sucked time away from the people who were already established there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I'll never understand the how & why of people logging into a site to watch OTHER people play the games they themselves enjoy. JUST PLAY YOUR GAMES PEOPLE!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, SoberChef said: I'll never understand the how & why of people logging into a site to watch OTHER people play the games they themselves enjoy. JUST PLAY YOUR GAMES PEOPLE!! Its nice background noise I'll never put in the time to be as good as pro players / speedrunners Some people are genuinely fun to watch because of their personalities I only do this rarely, but to watch gameplay of games I'm thinking about buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SoberChef said: I'll never understand the how & why of people logging into a site to watch OTHER people play the games they themselves enjoy. JUST PLAY YOUR GAMES PEOPLE!! Because I enjoy watching people play at a level that 99% will never achieve. I like playing Tekken 7 but also like to watch a couple of SK gods go toe to toe and do shit that would take me years to learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I watch people play WoW when I play WoW so I am not bored while playing WoW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, SoberChef said: I'll never understand the how & why of people logging into a site to watch OTHER people play the games they themselves enjoy. JUST PLAY YOUR GAMES PEOPLE!! Alright, you know how you can talk, but people still watch talk shows? It's like that. People watch for personalities. I don't know how we're here almost a decade later with people thinking it's just people "watching other people play games." You know what entertainment is, right? A game is often a backdrop or a topic of conversation rather than it just being some dude silently sitting there playing so the audience can watch the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 hours ago, SoberChef said: I'll never understand the how & why of people logging into a site to watch OTHER people play the games they themselves enjoy. JUST PLAY YOUR GAMES PEOPLE!! Guess you've never been to an arcade where you could play some games and then watch some badasses go at it playing Mortal Kombat 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Guess you've never been to an arcade where you could play some games and then watch some badasses go at it playing Mortal Kombat 2. I had next with my quarters by the screen, I wasn't just going to walk away from my hard earned allowance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number305 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, SoberChef said: I'll never understand the how & why of people logging into a site to watch OTHER people play the games they themselves enjoy. JUST PLAY YOUR GAMES PEOPLE!! I feel the same, but I realize that literally millions of people love it, so it's just something that I don't understand. It's okay for people to like stuff that I don't. Fortunately no one is forcing me to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 It's unfortunate, i liked the early days of Mixer. MS fucked it up by doing all that Mixer Partner bullshit and only featuring the same relative handful of people on the front page. Then they removed the ability to even leave the first page. Then they removed the ability to browse random streamers. The only way to find someone was to search for their username or just search by game. If someone was playing an obscure game and had few to no followers, the chances of being discovered by anyone were astronomically small. People moved from Twitch to Mixer to have a better chance of gaining a following, and then MS slowly started removing all of the avenues they had to gain viewers. If you weren't a mixer partner by the time they started narrowing their focus, you weren't gonna be. The money they spent on Shroud and Ninja could've been invested in up-and-coming streamers, but instead was kind of an extra 'fuck you' to the people that had been there from the start. It's no wonder the service failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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