b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 it's nice that we're just dunking on summers things might not completely suck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 3:51 PM, Joe said: See now that is something to get pissed about. What the fuck? I can’t believe I was dumb enough to fall for this one. Never again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 38 minutes ago, Joe said: I can’t believe I was dumb enough to fall for this one. Never again. It's not over yet When Dems get to govern we take fucking forever, and won't know what is happening until it's too late 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 They are playing with fire fucking around with these $1,400 dollar checks. I think they could have done the $1,400 and had a little pushback and maybe deserved some of that after driving home the $2,000 over and over... but if they start screwing with income levels and other stuff, at some point it's going to bite them in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 One month in and you can see the writing on the wall, the GOP will take the House in 22 as the Biden admin struggles with the realities of the faltering economy and Dem congressional leadership fail to whip their caucus into the sorts of legislation needed. Major change needed in the Dem leadership if they don’t want to get demolished in 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Major change needed in the Dem leadership if they don’t want to get demolished in 22 Due to their own institutional power, these people (mostly pelosi and her leadership team) will literally have to die in order for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Due to their own institutional power, these people (mostly pelosi and her leadership team) will literally have to die in order for that to happen. And then be replaced by the late-60-year-olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subzwari1987 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: And then be replaced by the late-60-year-olds. AOC and her squad are the future of the Democratic Party. And Pelosi and all the old farts in the party will hold them back as long as possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Subzwari1987 said: AOC and her squad are the future of the Democratic Party. And Pelosi and all the old farts in the party will hold them back as long as possible. But then the big buck donor money might dry up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Dare Manchin to vote against a bill the Republican governor of his state supports and probably thinks isn't enough anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 2/3/2021 at 12:20 PM, Jason said: Democrats really love fantasizing about punching themselves in the dick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 All of this means testing nonsense is a "solution" desperately searching for a "problem". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 46 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Dare Manchin to vote against a bill the Republican governor of his state supports and probably thinks isn't enough anyway. I can't disagree with this at all. Is he gonna be the one that makes sure no one gets checks? Hell no. It's not like this is the GND or M4A, this is a phenomenally popular thing even his wva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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finaljedi Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jason said: The Democrats don't lose because more people agree with the Republicans, they tend to lose because Republicans get really enthusiastic about what their politicians do and Democrats don't, and it's because of stuff like this. They talked of going it alone despite the Republicans objections but then compromise the shit out of it anyway just to eek out a loss from a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The headline omitted its likely going to be dropped cause it doesn't conform with reconciliations budgetary rules. So unless they convince people like Manchin or Sinema to nuke the filibuster they're going to have to work within those rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: The headline omitted its likely going to be dropped cause it doesn't conform with reconciliations budgetary rules. So unless they convince people like Manchin or Sinema to nuke the filibuster they're going to have to work within those rules. So basically, it's not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: So basically, it's not happening. pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Nuke Joe Manchin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Democrats: Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory since 1968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 It’s amazing. Same thing I thought about Trump and the GOP last year. You have an opportunity for completely legal bribery of the electorate and you’re falling on your face to avoid it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: It’s amazing. Same thing I thought about Trump and the GOP last year. You have an opportunity for completely legal bribery of the electorate and you’re falling on your face to avoid it The difference is, the GOP also packed the courts and got 3 SCOTUS judges. The Dems will end up with nothing, and I predict in 2024 the GOP will hold the House, the Senate, and the POTUS, and they'll replace Breyer after he croaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I think it's okay to give Manchin and Sinema the space to prove their "I don't want to nuke the filibuster" bona fides. It honestly feels like the minimum wage increase was the extra ask that Biden's willing to give up; the very thing that dems were begging Obama to do for eight years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Why are these politicians still such stupid assholes? WHY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 @Joe So, Murphy vetoed a bill that extends NJ unemployment for another 8 weeks, because "it's redundant since we have an 11-week federal extension". JFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: @Joe So, Murphy vetoed a bill that extends NJ unemployment for another 8 weeks, because "it's redundant since we have an 11-week federal extension". JFC. Isn’t it, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe said: Isn’t it, though? Was the NJ 20-week extension redundant since we had a 13-week federal extension at the time? It's cumulative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Was the NJ 20-week extension redundant since we had a 13-week federal extension at the time? It's cumulative. He made it seem like it was a duplication, so I’m not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, Joe said: He made it seem like it was a duplication, so I’m not sure. It’s not. In 2020, after your 26-weeks, you would be moved to the 13-week federal extension provided by the CARES act, if/when that ran out, in NJ, you would then be moved to a 20-week extension provided by the state (which was triggered due to high UE numbers). The 13-week extension from the CARES act is expired now so it’s no longer relevant for people. There’s currently over 75k people in NJ who lost their jobs before the pandemic hit and now cannot find work that exhausted all previous state and federal benefits. This 11-week federal extension will help, if this state 8-week wasn’t vetoed, that would then kick in after the 11-week, just like how the 20-week did. So, no, not redundant, no overlapping, no duplication: cumulative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: It’s not. In 2020, after your 26-weeks, you would be moved to the 13-week federal extension provided by the CARES act, if/when that ran out, in NJ, you would then be moved to a 20-week extension provided by the state (which was triggered due to high UE numbers). The 13-week extension from the CARES act is expired now so it’s no longer relevant for people. There’s currently over 75k people in NJ who lost their jobs before the pandemic hit and now cannot find work that exhausted all previous state and federal benefits. This 11-week federal extension will help, if this state 8-week wasn’t vetoed, that would then kick in after the 11-week, just like how the 20-week did. So, no, not redundant, no overlapping, no duplication: cumulative. Gotcha. I guess he meant duplicate in the sense that the NJ 8-week extension was only passed in the absence of the federal extension and now it's "no longer necessary?" I suppose the thinking is these benefits will be extended further at the federal level. If not, then that's a major fuck-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, Joe said: Gotcha. I guess he meant duplicate in the sense that the NJ 8-week extension was only passed in the absence of the federal extension and now it's "no longer necessary?" I suppose the thinking is these benefits will be extended further at the federal level. If not, then that's a major fuck-up. Are there further federal extensions coming beyond the 11-week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 7 hours ago, marioandsonic said: The difference is, the GOP also packed the courts and got 3 SCOTUS judges. The Dems will end up with nothing, and I predict in 2024 the GOP will hold the House, the Senate, and the POTUS, and they'll replace Breyer after he croaks. Breyer is going to retire this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Breyer is going to retire this year. Don’t let facts get in the way of doom posting, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Breyer is going to retire this year. Garland at ag->ketanji brown jackson on first circuit->Beyer (whom she clerked for) retires ->brown jackson gets put on scotus is the current theory of change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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