b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jose said: Yes? Fuck yes? Better to have a senator vote with Trump 52.5% (Manchin) of the time rather than 94.9% (Capito) of the time. Honestly, if you bothered to do your research, you would have far more cause to be annoyed with Sinema than Manchin. Familiarity breeds contempt. It was such an easy vote I just don't understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Scott said: I thought this offered some helpful perspective: From Reddit - "The market has dropped about 25% right now, sweet, so cheap right? The equivalent point in 2008-9 was Sep 2008. The market dropped another 40% from that point before hitting bottom, and it took nearly 27 months to start growing up from that 9/08 level. That is a long, long time to realize 0% ROI. Buying in Sep 2008 was not a "deal". It was not "on sale". It was just locking you in to a very long and painful period of 0 growth at a time you NEEDED an extended emergency fund. If "previous level" means the peak, it took over 6 years to return." Seeing stocks down is an enticement to buy, but I think I'll just be padding my emergency fund for a while. If you look at market cap-to-gdp, the market still has to decline about 30-35% more to get back to a historically ‘cheap’ level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: If you look at market cap-to-gdp, the market still has to decline about 30-35% more to get back to a historically ‘cheap’ level. ChallengeAccepted.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I like it. Make it permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 By the end of his first term Trump will be the first black president and the first socialist president. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, ThreePi said: By the end of his first term Trump will be the first black president and the first socialist president. He was a Democrat this entire time! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Look at those futures. Mmmm mmmmm mmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: If you look at market cap-to-gdp, the market still has to decline about 30-35% more to get back to a historically ‘cheap’ level. You got one of those for international ex us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 hours ago, Jose said: Yes? Fuck yes? Better to have a senator vote with Trump 52.5% (Manchin) of the time rather than 94.9% (Capito) of the time. Honestly, if you bothered to do your research, you would have far more cause to be annoyed with Sinema than Manchin. Agreed on the last part, but I get what b_m is saying. With the amount of people unemployed and and GOP Senators in Utah and Alaska voting yes, I don't see anything they had to lose. I really don't think rural dudes in WV oppose paid sick leave after they're unemployed. Trump's signing the bills: I don't think they have to protect themselves in Trump Country from voting for something Trump signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 When we consider the fact that we don't really have a left wing/right wing duopoly, that what we really have is one party of serious governors whose political leanings are generally "left" but still span a wide range of opinions and one party of authoritarians/oligarchs/dominionists, I would absolutely take fucking Joe Manchin or Krysten Sinema over the alternative any day of the goddamn week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 That really has nothing to do with holding them accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 They can be held accountable! In office! Where no Republican ever would be held accountable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Futures are looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Anathema- said: They can be held accountable! In office! Where no Republican ever would be held accountable! Yes, they are in office. Democratic leaders have also said to hold Democrats accountable once they're voted in; ignoring it or changing the argument means they can do whatever they want, even if it's bad policy (see: Iraq War). The vote really doesn't make much sense unless they actually believe this, and in Sinema's case, I highly doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/19/unemployment-insurance-today-coronavirus/ Quote More than a million workers are expected to lose their jobs by the end of March, economists say, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Sounds about right. And the ones with health insurance tied to their jobs, yeesh, the stress of that. =\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Sounds about right. And the ones with health insurance tied to their jobs, yeesh, the stress of that. =\ This is the time for bold plans and action, and we're trying the same old shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 @skillzdadirecta I guess if there's a silver lining, you can finally hear people say "economic anxiety" and agree with it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Sounds about right. And the ones with health insurance tied to their jobs, yeesh, the stress of that. =\ They like their insurance. No way we could have M4A! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amazatron Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 There goes the mini bounce as our dear moron opens his mouth again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: @skillzdadirecta I guess if there's a silver lining, you can finally hear people say "economic anxiety" and agree with it! Lol yeah... It would be ironic if REAL economic anxiety was his downfall when imagined economic anxiety was responsible for his rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Nancy is criminally stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I've said it before. The country is run by senior citizens that are either stupid, evil, or evil and stupid. Forget about not being able to find toilet paper in stock somewhere, we're about to see a hundreds of thousands Americans not even have the money to afford rolls of toilet paper. That reality is literally less than two weeks away. There's is no reason to believe unemployment offices around the country, that normally handle thousands of requests a month, will be able to manage thousands of requests a day. Hell, the last time I was laid off due to staff reductions, I didn't see my first unemployment check for more than a month. I already had accepted a new position at another company before I actually saw a check in the mail. However, sure, that's a fine way to help folks in need today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Nice to know that a 4th of the country, even when faced with a complete financial and social meltdown we haven't seen the likes of since the Great Depression, still cross their arms and go, "nope, can't do it, some black welfare queen might buy lobster with it". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I’m glad I have complete job security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Nice to know that a 4th of the country, even when faced with a complete financial and social meltdown we haven't seen the likes of since the Great Depression, still cross their arms and go, "nope, can't do it, some black welfare queen might buy lobster with it". I see posts on my FB all the time using the slippery slope fallacy of equating any kind of (more) democratic socialism with communism. "Healthcare for all = communism." The Midwest and rural areas of this country still live the Cold War mentality. They only accept what they are exposed to, which is capitalism - a man makes himself, and a man makes for himself, fuck people you don't know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I’m glad I have complete job security. I wish I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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