TwinIon Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 For some reason I've been seeing this go around twitter, so let's give it a go: It is actually a bit harder than I expected. I think part of the reason for me is that I just don't see a lot of movies that everyone hates. I've got so little time and I keep up with film news so much that I always have a bunch of really well loved films to watch. The other thing I found is that a bunch of "unpopular" movies that I really love end up having an RT score ~50-60%, so movies like Man of Steel, Cloud Atlas, Spring Breakers, Mother, and Watchmen don't quite make the cut. Then I thought of a bunch that I'd seen recently, but weren't released in my adult life post 2000, Dune, Mouse Hunt, Rat Race, and The Princess and The Cobbler didn't count. So I could only think of four movies that actually fit the bill, and only two of them actually had audience scores that were also below 50%. So here are mine in chronological order: Speed Racer - 40% I feel like this is almost cheating, as it seems the general consensus on this movie has come back around. With an audience score of 60%, I suspect that it's even more popular on this board. Pain and Gain - 50% Yeah, it's not "under 50%," but I'm still going to count it. With an audience score of 47%, I'm at least in the minority of this one, even if it's just barely. I feel like it's Bay's most thoughtful work, even if he didn't mean it to be. It was certainly the film that made me want to see him move away from total bombast. American Ultra - 43% I think the tonal shifts earned this film its poor ratings, but I think it kinda works. It's supposed to be a shock to the system, and it's very well cast. Warcraft - 28% It seems audiences (or at least online commentators), liked Warcraft well enough to leave a 76% positive rating, but reviewers weren't on the same page. I totally get why anyone wouldn't like Warcraft, and I probably have some attachment given how much Warcraft I, II, III, and WoW I've played, but I actually think it does more right than wrong. So, what movies do you guys like that fit the bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Hmmmm....this may take a while to figure out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I thought I had a good one in The Weatherman, but 59%! Damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I like the challenge but will have to get back to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 This is really difficult. I had to go through lists of movies on Rotten Tomatoes because some movies that I thought would make the cut were over the 50% threshold. Here we go... I didn't realize that Keanu Reeve's Constantine was a 46%. Equilibrium was a 40%? Eh, I still enjoyed it. Godzilla: King of Monsters wasn't a great film, but it's still way more enjoyable than any other kaiju movies in the last few years? What? There were no other big kaiju films? Blah, it still deserves better than a 42%. Also, random. Not really a movie I genuinely like, but it deserves mention. My kids like a lot of really not great TV and equally not great movies. Still, Smurfs: The Lost Village is better than the 40% would indicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Hmm the one I was going to mention came in 1999 and I was still a kid. Speed Racer is one, for sure. I'll have to think if there's any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 For me, I was going to say it’s easy, but my movie came out in 1997 (though, I was over 18): The Postman. 8%. It’s no less of a brilliant movie than Dances With Wolves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Chronicles of Riddick. 29%. Tomorrowland. 50%. At/below, tomato/tomatoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 To truly be hard I think it should shoot for sub 40% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Is there a list of movies with RT ratings sub-50% since 2000? I can't find where to sort that on RT. There doesn't seem to be any sort of advanced search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 There are tons for me: The Matrix Revolutions, Beyond the Black Rainbow, Mother!, Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas, The Fall, Immortals, The Fountain (28% top critics is fucking blasphemous), Tron: Legacy, the Riddick franchise, the Daniel Craig Bond franchise (Quantum of Solace and Spectre), Only God Forgives, Man of Steel, Killing Them Softly, The Counselor, Miami Vice (film), Blackhat, Constantine, Margaret, Spring Breakers, Mission: Impossible II, Equilibrium, and Watchmen to name a few. I think a good number of comedy films I enjoyed a lot don't universally rate well (like Zack and Miri Make A Porno), but comedy is particularly subjective and critics can be really pretentious about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Emblazon said: Chronicles of Riddick. 29%. 3 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: I didn't realize that Keanu Reeve's Constantine was a 46%. I love both of these movies. Book of Eli 47% Hot Rod 39% Digimon the Movie 24% Pokemon the Movie 2000 19% Tron Legacy 51% close enough Secret Life of Walter Mitty 51% National Treasure 46% Super Troopers 36% Atlantis (Disney) 49% Rush Hour 3 19% Kingdom of Heaven 39% Mummy Returns 47% Prior to 2000 Tommy Boy 42% Legend 36% Hook 26% Boondock Saints 22% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 A Nightmare on Elm Street 15% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Kingdom of Heaven is the first that comes to my mind, but it’s the Director’s Cut I love and the general consensus is that’s the much better version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number305 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 The year 2000 has nothing to do with 'my adult life'. So I am ignoring that stipulation. Fear and Loathing 49% Last Action Hero 36% Hook 26% Billy Madison 40% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Kingdom of Heaven Theatrical—39% is generous. Kingdom of Heaven DC—anything short of 100% is criminal. I’ve never before seen such a drastic change in cuts before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 55 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: There are tons for me: The Matrix Revolutions, Beyond the Black Rainbow, Mother!, Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas, The Fall, Immortals, The Fountain (28% top critics is fucking blasphemous), Tron: Legacy, the Riddick franchise, the Daniel Craig Bond franchise (Quantum of Solace and Spectre), Only God Forgives, Man of Steel, Killing Them Softly, The Counselor, Miami Vice (film), Blackhat, Constantine, Margaret, Spring Breakers, Mission: Impossible II, Equilibrium, and Watchmen to name a few. I think a good number of comedy films I enjoyed a lot don't universally rate well (like Zack and Miri Make A Porno), but comedy is particularly subjective and critics can be really pretentious about them. Most of those have a RT score over 50%. 51 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Kingdom of Heaven is the first that comes to my mind, but it’s the Director’s Cut I love and the general consensus is that’s the much better version. Man, I forgot how critically panned the original release was. The DC is a good film. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, TwinIon said: Most of those have a RT score over 50%. Man, I forgot how critically panned the original release was. The DC is a good film. Well you weren't clear - I chose ones at 50% or close to 50%, whether that was in "all critics", "top critics", or "audience" categories. I wasn't sure if we needed two to meet the criteria or just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 I’m sure it I thought about it that I would have a bunch but one recently I saw and enjoyed with a 44% is Mr. Right (2016) https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mr_right_2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Hmm it's not after 2000 but the 13th Warrior. 33% rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emblazon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: Hmm it's not after 2000 but the 13th Warrior. 33% rating. Critics are stoopid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 All of these are movies I find myself tuning back into over the years & re-watching because I just genuinely find pure enjoyment out of them. 2000: Dude Where's My Car (30%) The Beach (43%) Reindeer Games (37%) Hollow Man (24%) 2001: Freddy Got Fingered (13%) 3000 Miles to Graceland (21%) - Also an amazing soundtrack! The One (25%) American Outlaws (25%) Sweet November (27%) - Really a sweet romance that made me cry! Swordfish (32%) 2002: Halloween: Resurrection (19%) - Hasn't aged well but I enjoy it. Ghost Ship (28%) - The opening scene alone + Mudvayne Queen of the Damned (30%) - Also RIP Aaliyah Jason X (25%) Empire (38%) - Hey, I enjoy Leguizamo Enough (25%) - Wow if this was out today it would be 90% 2003: A Man Apart (36%) - One of Vin's better roles IMHO Basic (34%) - Solid "whodunnit" by McTiernan Bad Boys II (38%) Cradle 2 the Grave (36%) The Hunted (40%) - The one with Jones & Del Toro ... but I also enjoy the one with Christopher Lambert in Japan with ninjas! Dreamcatcher (35%) - "Mr. Gay, go away!" 2004: Resident Evil: Apocalypse (35%) - One of the better entries in the series! Walking Tall (44%) Never Die Alone (38%) Along Came Polly (44%) - Maybe my 2nd fav Stiller flick after Tropic Thunder Club Dread (45%) - Bill Paxton!!! The Punisher (33%) - Thomas Jane did the role well. 2005: Into the Blue (45%) - Brolin, Alba, Walker, Caan - all good! Also let's give recognition to "A History of Violence"! This is just one hell of an amazing flick with Viggo & Hurt. 2006: Grandma's Boy (33%) - Still holds up, love this flick! 2007: AVP: Requiem (29%) - At least when you can see what's going on, it's a lot better than AVP. War (36%) - Li v. Statham, nuff said! Death Sentence (36%) - James Wan + Kevin Bacon with a sprinkling of John Goodman is great for me. Smokin' Aces (45%) - Ryan Reynolds, Ray Liotta, a great cast of solid character actors, just all around fun times. 2008: Never Back Down (39%) - Low rent Cruise v. Low Rent Walker showcasing street level MMA with a Fast & Furious sort of vibe. Don't know why, just scratches an itch for me! Punisher: War Zone (30%) - Ray Stevenson kicked all the ass! 2009: Friday the 13th (34%) Law Abiding Citizen (34%) Fast & Furious (46%) - Reinvigorated the franchise! Pandorum (28%) - Freaking love Ben Foster 2010: Repo Men (32%) - Law & Whitaker doing a great job here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Hmm it's not after 2000 but the 13th Warrior. 33% rating. Blasphemy 2 hours ago, Emblazon said: Critics are stoopid. I've been saying that literally for decades. A lot of of ones I would name have been named in the thread already... since I don't give a flying fuck about Rotten Tomatoes I'll have to check. Let's see... The Thing Prequel/Remake as discussed in my other thread. Life sitting at 50% is a fuckin' crime. Pandorum is a great movie I'll try and think of more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 @RemarkableriotsWhat didn't you like about such a thorough list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 31 minutes ago, SoberChef said: @RemarkableriotsWhat didn't you like about such a thorough list? Jason X is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: Jason X is garbage. Jason X was indeed trash, and he had a few other on there that I didn't care for, but he also had a lot I agreed with so it balanced out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 13 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Hmm it's not after 2000 but the 13th Warrior. 33% rating. I loved this movie. The scene where he learns their language is one of my favorite scenes of all time. Im too lazy to look it up but I’m just gonna assume it’s way below 50% I LOVE WATERWORLD!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Mercury33 said: I loved this movie. The scene where he learns their language is one of my favorite scenes of all time. Im too lazy to look it up but I’m just gonna assume it’s way below 50% I LOVE WATERWORLD!!! Waterworld was in the 90's... I loved it too. Always thought it got a bad rap. I also loved that sequence in 13th Warrior when he learned their language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Dead Silence (2007) - 20% on RT This was widely shit on and I mean, it has a fucking 20% on RT, but I really think this movie is a modern Horror cult classic in many ways. I'm almost positive people were expecting another Saw style franchise and instead he essentially made something like an homage to 60's Mario Bava Gothic flicks and dark fairy tales. Sure, it has all the bad Horror cliches ranging from shitty stilted acting, a total lack of logic in favor of set pieces and general weirdness but my god if it isn't atmosphere and set porn. Now I'm not saying it's a masterpiece or anything, I hate some of the dumb late 90's style MTV music video editing but there's something incredibly endearing, gloomy and cool about this movie and I always remember it very fondly. I even have a t-shirt and a poster from release day. Great Horror flick to get stoned to and just hang back and drink in the cool sets and everything. Also, Mary Shaw is a fucking great character and all the scenes in the mortuary are classic Horror gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 19 hours ago, Nokt said: Prior to 2000 Hook 26% How THE FUCK did that rating happen??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 How did Godzilla: King of the Monsters get such a low rating, lower than the previous movie?! You see giant monsters fighting each other in glorious fashion, what more do you want!? Shame on the people that slept on it too. Why didn't it make more at the box office?! I repeat, it's got giant monsters beating the shit out of each other! I don't care if the human parts were maybe a little stupid, that's not what I paid a ticket for! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: How THE FUCK did that rating happen??? To be fair, the set pieces kind of suck, Rufio sucks, and Pan’s kids are little shits that I don’t feel bad for. Peter Pan and Hook are the best parts of that flick. My pick? Hollywood Homicide. Harrison Ford and Josh Hartnett playing detectives investigating the murder of a rap group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, MarSolo said: To be fair, the set pieces kind of suck, Rufio sucks, and Pan’s kids are little shits that I don’t feel bad for. Peter Pan and Hook are the best parts of that flick. My pick? Hollywood Homicide. Harrison Ford and Josh Hartnett playing detectives investigating the murder of a rap group. No way, the kids are great and Rufio is cool too when he learns his lesson not to be bully in true 90's fashion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It seems like the 90's has far more of these types of movies than the 2000's. Most movies that were deemed to have sucked in the 2000's really did suck. The first decade of the 21st century suffered from a lot of movies being rushed into production because a writer's guild strike was looming. I can't really think of too many films that have not already been named that fit the criteria for me. 32 minutes ago, Brick said: How did Godzilla: King of the Monsters get such a low rating, lower than the previous movie?! You see giant monsters fighting each other in glorious fashion, what more do you want!? Shame on the people that slept on it too. Why didn't it make more at the box office?! I repeat, it's got giant monsters beating the shit out of each other! I don't care if the human parts were maybe a little stupid, that's not what I paid a ticket for! Yeah if you're judging a fucking Godzilla movie based on the human parts, you are really missing the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 20 hours ago, Nokt said: National Treasure 46% wtf that movie is hella fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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