skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, SFLUFAN said: No, the fifth fatality was the pilot. Oh ok... I'm getting caught up in the thread backwards So it was Kobe, his daughter, a parent and another child? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: Oh ok... I'm getting caught up in the thread backwards So it was Kobe, his daughter, a parent and another child? Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 The owner of Leicester City died in a helicopter crash the other year as well. Weird to have multiple sports-related helicopter crashes in such a short timeframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Living in LA, my phone has been ringing off the hook from folks out of state since the crash like I knew the guy. I think people that don't live in LA fail to understand how big this city actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: What @sblfilms said was entirely appropriate and accurate. It's all part of his legacy. Either way, tragic this happened. no shit I knew one of you would go there right away just wasn’t it to be sblfilms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: My father who was a pilot for over 30 years absolutely refused to have anything to do with helicopters because unlike an actual airplane, there are very few options available to safely recover from an incident. My buddy who was a helicopter mechanic in the army once told me the importance of the Jesus nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris- said: The owner of Leicester City died in a helicopter crash the other year as well. Weird to have multiple sports-related helicopter crashes in such a short timeframe. How about helicopter tour incidents in Hawaii? The fact of the matter is that once I got out of the army, one of my greatest senses of relief was that I would probably NEVER have to set foot in a helicopter again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: You're actually asking that question? Well some people see the loss of a celebrity as a personal loss to them. I didn’t know his daughters. Had no idea if it was a case of “season 2 of their show was about to start filming. Now we won’t get to see it.” Or just the general lament for the loss of life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 I'd be curious to hear Shaq's response. I expect it to be appropriately gracious but those two did NOT get along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Well some people see the loss of a celebrity as a personal loss to them. I didn’t know his daughters. Had no idea if it was a case of “season 2 of their show was about to start filming. Now we won’t get to see it.” Or just the general lament for the loss of life. That REALLY didn't help your case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, SFLUFAN said: That REALLY didn't help your case. I thought for sure he just misread the "weren't" as "were". Guess... not? That is one weird reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Are there bots that post here? Jesus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, SFLUFAN said: That REALLY didn't help your case. I didn’t expect it to make me look like a better person, but you should be less confused. I was wondering the motives. people who don’t personally know Kobe will legit cry over his death, but if it was ONLY his daughter would find it sad, but not she’s a tear, because they weren’t famous enough to feel an emotional attachment to. I didn’t know which case this was. Tragic, but affects me in 0 ways. Same for Kobe. My crack was just me being an asshole. I log this under “unfortunate”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Well some people see the loss of a celebrity as a personal loss to them. I didn’t know his daughters. Had no idea if it was a case of “season 2 of their show was about to start filming. Now we won’t get to see it.” Or just the general lament for the loss of life. Loss of life is awful, regardless of if you knew the deceased or consider the loss to be personal. JFC, did MS’s Tay AI take over your account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dodger said: no shit I knew one of you would go there right away just wasn’t it to be sblfilms I don’t see any issue with noting the whole scope of a public figure’s legacy. In the particular case of Kobe, his alleged misdeeds are directly connected to his position as one of the most notable sports stars in history. I didn’t say I’m glad he’s dead or the normal sort of ghoulish stuff we often see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I don’t see any issue with noting the whole scope of a public figure’s legacy. In the particular case of Kobe, his alleged misdeeds are directly connected to his position as one of the most notable sports stars in history. I didn’t say I’m glad he’s dead or the normal sort of ghoulish stuff we often see. I forgot... it's 2020. Accusation=Guilt... except when it comes to Presidents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 This is a huge loss for the sports world and for Los Angeles as well. Kobe was LA sports. He transcended the game. People on ESPN are crying. It’s very insensitive to not understand why people are crying over a guy they didn’t personally know, because you don’t need to KNOW somebody for them to have an impact on your life. I grew up watching Kobe play. It’s very shocking to hear this news. My thoughts with the families affected. Two families lost a parent and daughter and millions feel the loss of somebody who inspired them, or at the least enjoyed watching play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I forgot... it's 2020. Accusation=Guilt Uh, it has been like this for years. Pretty sure plenty of people thought Chris Hardwick and Neil Degrasse Tyson were guilty right off the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: I forgot... it's 2020. Accusation=Guilt... except when it comes to Presidents There is significantly more evidence that a crime was committed than just an accusation. But as is often the case, criminal defense lawyers seek to destroy the female accusers of their male clients in rape cases, and the alleged victim decided at the last minute to not testify in the criminal case. It’s difficult enough to get a rape conviction when the alleged victim will testify, that much more when they won’t. But, yes, dismiss it as just an accusation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 So it's Kobe, his daughter, another teammate and that person's parent, and pilot who died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, sblfilms said: There is significantly more evidence that a crime was committed than just an accusation. But as is often the case, criminal defense lawyers seek to destroy the female accusers of their male clients in rape cases, and the alleged victim decided at the last minute to not testify in the criminal case. It’s difficult enough to get a rape conviction when the alleged victim will testify, that much more when they won’t. But, yes, dismiss it as just an accusation Had you said "Accused rapist" I think you would have a stronger leg to stand on. Just say you misspoke and move on and spare me the fucking lecture. This topic isn't about you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 The weather conditions at the time of the crash were very foggy so it's entirely possible that it's not mechanical failure or that in the event of mechanical failure, the pilot lacked the visibility to execute an autorotation of the rotors properly before hitting the hillside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 26, 2020 Author Share Posted January 26, 2020 Just now, SFLUFAN said: The weather conditions at the time of the crash were foggy so it's entirely possible that it's not mechanical failure. I saw a report saying they were flying using instruments because it was so foggy this morning. So it may have been some form of human error? How safe are helicopters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Had you said "Accused rapist" I think you would have a stronger leg to stand on. Just say you misspoke and move on and spare me the fucking lecture. This topic isn't about you. I didn’t misspeak. Based on the evidence, I think he is probably a rapist. I’m not a journalist, I don’t have to hedge my views behind a facade of dispassionate objectivity. And yes, this topic is about Kobe Bryant, my comments were about Kobe Bryant. The Kobe Bryant who was credibly accused of being a rapist and sent his lawyers out to destroy the life of the person who levied that accusation. Defend that all you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I saw a report saying they were flying using instruments because it was so foggy this morning. So it may have been some form of human error? How safe are helicopters? As I mentioned previously, my father was a fixed-wing pilot for over 30 years and he wanted absolutely nothing to do with helicopters because he considered them to be "inherently aerodynamically unstable". However, helicopters CAN recover from engine failure using a technique called autorotation where upward airflow rather than actual engine power keeps the rotor system operating: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I was never a fan of the guy, but damn, we have some assholes in here. Some heavy news to wake up to. Guy was still a legend and I feel bad for his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 As I grow older, I come to see death as not a tragedy for the person who died, but for the people they leave behind. Even the worst assholes have people that loved them, and their death causes immense grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 9 dead according to the LA county sheriffs office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BJ_ Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 There were 9 people on board they just announced. Just tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 The Sikorsky S-76 can accommodate about 12 passengers with a crew of two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I have no idea how you get to that from Lakers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I don’t even know how to process this news. I can’t recall feeling this way over a death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I'm watching what is ostensibly the lead-in to Celtics/Pelicans on ESPN but is of course just all of the studio personalities talking about Kobe, and it's hard to compare what the tone of this coverage is like to anything. Everyone on air seems deeply shaken and seems to not really want to be there. Jay Williams said explicitly they should've cancelled the whole slate of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Kobe was really destined to do some great things post-NBA career. He was a big advocate of the WNBA and worked hard to grow the game of women’s basketball. Dude even won an Oscar. Not to mention everything his daughter could have accomplished as well as the others on board. Doc Rivers was right when he said not many have the same DNA as him. Kobe was special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: I'm watching what is ostensibly the lead-in to Celtics/Pelicans on ESPN but is of course just all of the studio personalities talking about Kobe, and it's hard to compare what the tone of this coverage is like to anything. Everyone on air seems deeply shaken and seems to not really want to be there. Jay Williams said explicitly they should've cancelled the whole slate of games. They should cancel the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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