Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Not directly related to the last post, but something that really tripped me out was seeing an infectious disease doctor explain that the existence of variants in the US are not all imported from the places they are first found, that many and maybe most seeding of those variants happened the the same mutation occurring independently in different nations. Maybe that is obvious to you guys, but it didn’t occur to me that such a thing could occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 NJ lifting its indoor dining capacity limit on May 19th! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 @sblfilms @b_m_b_m_b_m More shit like this, please. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Yes to all forms of vaccine bribery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Joe said: @sblfilms @b_m_b_m_b_m More shit like this, please. That's fucking hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: Not directly related to the last post, but something that really tripped me out was seeing an infectious disease doctor explain that the existence of variants in the US are not all imported from the places they are first found, that many and maybe most seeding of those variants happened the the same mutation occurring independently in different nations. Maybe that is obvious to you guys, but it didn’t occur to me that such a thing could occur. From my understanding, the RNA for SARS-CoV-2 is very simple, and there are only a limited number of mutations that can occur (almost all on the spike protein). So with the virus replicating trillions or quadrillions of times across the planet in the last year, it's very feasible that the same mutation could have occurred and survived in multiple places. The good news is that the core part of the virus seems to not be able to change, much, which allows for long-term t-cell immunity to be stronger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 There's not just one kind of vaccine hesitancy WWW.AXIOS.COM Some people are just waiting until they get around to getting it. what the heck is there to wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: There's not just one kind of vaccine hesitancy WWW.AXIOS.COM Some people are just waiting until they get around to getting it. what the heck is there to wait and see I actually managed to convince someone in my local subreddit to go get a shot today after arguing back and forth for a few days...he also wanted to "wait and see." I managed to approach him in a friendly way and say while I understood his concerns, here was some research showing they weren't true, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 The fact of the matter is that we don't know the long term health effects of Covid or the vaccines, but there is reason to believe even a mild Covid case carries more long term health risks than the vaccines do. I think that is the sort of messaging we desperately need the government, and sadly, conservative celebrity types to aggressively push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Damn, my province just announced we've vaccinated 82% of people 60+, and 64% of people 40+ (43% overall for 18+). The uptake has been incredible, here. My province is a big piece of turd, but somehow it's done the vaccination rollout better than anywhere else in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Damn, my province just announced we've vaccinated 82% of people 60+, and 64% of people 40+ (43% overall for 18+). The uptake has been incredible, here. My province is a big piece of turd, but somehow it's done the vaccination rollout better than anywhere else in Canada. Were initial qualifications looser? That's like the one thing red states have gotten right, even though it was almost certainly by accident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Damn, my province just announced we've vaccinated 82% of people 60+, and 64% of people 40+ (43% overall for 18+). The uptake has been incredible, here. My province is a big piece of turd, but somehow it's done the vaccination rollout better than anywhere else in Canada. Basically an analogue for the US as a whole, then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The fact of the matter is that we don't know the long term health effects of Covid or the vaccines, but there is reason to believe even a mild Covid case carries more long term health risks than the vaccines do. I think that is the sort of messaging we desperately need the government, and sadly, conservative celebrity types to aggressively push. I feel like this is wildly understating the safety of the vaccine vs acquired infection even in mild cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jason said: Were initial qualifications looser? That's like the one thing red states have gotten right, even though it was almost certainly by accident. Yes. The only category was age. It started (Phase I) with 80+ and hospital workers. Since then it's dropped by a year or two every few days. This week they also allowed front-line workers of certain categories to book, even if they were below 40 (teachers, firefighters, etc). This is also first-dose only, of course. But we should be able to get 80% of adults fully vaccinated (both doses) by mid July, possibly exceeding the US (mostly based on a lower hesitancy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 F.D.A. Set to Authorize Pfizer Vaccine for Adolescents by Early Next Week - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM The move opens up the U.S. vaccination campaign to millions more Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Did anyone watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver last night about vaccines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Brick said: Did anyone watch Last Week Tonight with John Oliver last night about vaccines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the U.S., Experts Now Believe - The New York Times NYTI.MS Widely circulating coronavirus variants and persistent hesitancy about vaccines will keep the goal out of reach. The virus is here to stay, but vaccinating the most vulnerable may be enough to restore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fizzzzle Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 The people still being angry about masks are the people who haven't been wearing any to begin with. If I'm not smoking a cigarette, I don't even notice my mask is on a lot of the time. The other night I kept my mask on for hours after I got home from work without realizing it. People are just little babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just run them over and say "It probably wasn't even my car that killed them. Did they have any pre-existing conditions?!?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 “Is your name Santa Monica?” Lmao that was pretty good tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 So, FUCK’EM and anyone in such a anti-masker group. Someone should drive around with a bunch of nurses and a cooler of preloaded J&J syringes. While they aren’t looking, jab the fuckers with a needle. “Haha, you got a Covid shot . . . and possibly a blood clot” and leave them before the 15 minutes are up and *hope for the best *hope* is subjective in this case. Leave it up to you on whether this means immunity or possible death for them assholes. Hey some dead Covid culture would be in the J&J shot. Can we say they died of Covid instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Mariners might finish this year last in the standings, but first in our hearts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: Mariners might finish this year last in the standings, but first in our hearts. "I came for my covid shot and all I got was this lousy mariners ticket" 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Okay I'm off to attempt to find the idiots. I will provide updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 If I find them I have a very specific plan in mind for solving this situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 I think I was too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Jason said: I think I was too late. Apparently they were just a bunch of weak quitters, it's not even dark yet. Pussies. No need to engage with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Fizzzzle said: Apparently they were just a bunch of weak quitters, it's not even dark yet. Pussies. No need to engage with them. I wasn't going to engage them. I was just going to park my car with the key in and blast Aborted at max volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Jason said: I wasn't going to engage them. I was just going to park my car with the key in and blast Aborted at max volume. I just mean like they were protesting during working hours on a weekday and as soon as someone told them to kill themselves they took their ball and went home, because they're snowflakes. We fucking stood up to tear gas and plain clothes abductions. It's basically the most white people protest ever. Fucking weak. Grow some balls and actually protest about what you believe, not just when your kids are at school, you fucking idiot mooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 Just now, Fizzzzle said: I just mean like they were protesting during working hours on a weekday and as soon as someone told them to kill themselves they took their ball and went home, because they're snowflakes. We fucking stood up to tear gas and plain clothes abductions. It's basically the most white people protest ever. Fucking weak. Grow some balls and actually protest about what you believe, not just when your kids are at school, you fucking idiot mooks. They shifted from the school to a county supervisor's house. I used one of the street signs in a video to narrow down where they were but I drove the whole street and didn't see anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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