CitizenVectron Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 As a follow-up to my earlier question about the US rollout, Fauci confirmed today that the US should have the capability to get around 230 million doses to the public by the end of June, which is in line with Canada (per capita). This is great news, and hopefully enough of the public takes up the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: As a follow-up to my earlier question about the US rollout, Fauci confirmed today that the US should have the capability to get around 230 doses to the public by the end of June, which is in line with Canada (per capita). This is great news, and hopefully enough of the public takes up the offer. 230 doses doesn't sound good at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Hopefully that's 230 million doses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 The Trump Admin Has A Plan To Distribute The Vaccine — That Ends When Biden Takes Office TALKINGPOINTSMEMO.COM The Trump Admin Has A Plan To Distribute The Vaccine — That Ends When Biden Takes Office 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 My hospital got its first shipment of the vaccine yesterday. Apparently 5 people received it today and they're working on getting a clinic set up to administer it to employees and we're supposed to start receiving emails tomorrow for when we can go get it. They've got some method prioritizing who will be able to get it first. I'll await my email and get it as soon as I'm able to. Hopefully not too long. I don't work on any of our COVID units, which I'm sure those people will get top priority. But the rest of the nursing staff should be next in line, I'd imagine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Moderna vaccine could have an emergency use authorization on Thursday: FDA releases data on Moderna’s COVID vaccine: It looks good [Updated] ARSTECHNICA.COM Data drop comes ahead of a potential Emergency Use Authorization on Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The Trump Admin Has A Plan To Distribute The Vaccine — That Ends When Biden Takes Office TALKINGPOINTSMEMO.COM The Trump Admin Has A Plan To Distribute The Vaccine — That Ends When Biden Takes Office Obama leaves Trump a pandemic playbook, Trump throws it out. Trump has a vaccine distribution plan, Trump throws it out before Biden takes office. If there was ever any question that the purpose of Republican presidencies is to fuck stuff up, and leave Democratic presidents to clean up the mess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The father of a very good friend of mine is in the hospital in PA with pneumonia. Covid test results TBD on the next few hours but uh what are the chances it's not? Apparently they went to the casino several days a week before those were shut down (weren't they in PA?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 48 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The father of a very good friend of mine is in the hospital in PA with pneumonia. Covid test results TBD on the next few hours but uh what are the chances it's not? Apparently they went to the casino several days a week before those were shut down (weren't they in PA?) They were shut down, but were reopened in June, and weren't shut down again until last Saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 lol 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LazyPiranha Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: That not being the most liked tweet of all time is a condemnation of humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The invisible hand of the free market saves humanity again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 There's no such thing as a free market buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Check this out. It's a short video celebrating the seatbelt (specifically the three-point belt now standard) by Volvo. It's estimated that it's saved 1 million lives, but there was a massive fight against them when they were first mandated; they were called a violation of human rights. Crazy how stupid people have been stupid forever, and how similar the resistance is to anti-virus health orders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Iowa using $10M in virus aid to fund state police officers WWW.KCRG.COM Gov. Kim Reynolds’ administration is using $10 million in federal pandemic relief funds to pay the salaries of state police officers, who have largely not been directly involved in Iowa’s virus... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Time Traveler: Everyone In The Future Eats Dippin' Dots WWW.THEONION.COM NEW YORK—In an announcement with far-reaching implications for the fate of human civilization, a time-traveling man from the 22nd century revealed Monday that, in the future, earth's inhabitants consume Dippin' Dots rather than traditional ice cream. What the Dippin’ Dots ‘cold chain’ can teach us about COVID-19 vaccines WWW.POPSCI.COM The new COVID-19 vaccine requires a "cold chain" to maintain its quality in transit. Confused? Look to Dippin' Dots for answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AbsolutSurgen Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 To the people who don't want the vaccine -- can I have your place in line for my family? 'cause my kids want to see their grand-parents again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Sounds like they got the hell out of...Dodge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chakoo Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Covid has continued to make me loose faith in humanity. The wedding photographer should be able to sue the couple for lack of disclosure before hand. Fuck these people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 I can’t remember if it was here or elsewhere that I read this, but after the way we’ve handled this pandemic, it’s harder to criticize the questionable logic shown in horror movies. “He knew he was bitten by that zombie. Why would he stay with the group, knowing he was going to turn and put them all at risk?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, TheLeon said: I can’t remember if it was here or elsewhere that I read this, but after the way we’ve handled this pandemic, it’s harder to criticize the questionable logic shown in horror movies. “He knew he was bitten by that zombie. Why would he stay with the group, knowing he was going to turn and put them all at risk?” It reminds me of how Dan Carlin often talks about how he thinks the study of history should try to take more into account human elements like terror. Like, how did it actually feel to be in a city besieged by Mongols knowing if you lost every man, woman, and child would be slaughtered. Or what was it like being surrounded at the battle of Cannae. Especially being on the inner part of the enclosed army. Unable to move, much less fight back, having to wait an hour, two hours, maybe more while the outer lines are killed around you and you are just there waiting to die. Only when appreciating these human elements can you look back at a historical event and get some understanding of why these things sometimes take place in contravention of all sense or logic. Sometimes people act stupid because they're scared, or stubborn, or they believed lies, etc. More than once I have thought about how explaining the Trump years 20-30 years down the line will be completely inexplicable. But the Trump years themselves have made me wonder if even that idea is too optimistic. It kind of assumes things get better so these dark years need explaining. The other option is that we look back on the Trump years as at least not as bad as the hellscape of 2050..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 47 minutes ago, TheLeon said: I can’t remember if it was here or elsewhere that I read this, but after the way we’ve handled this pandemic, it’s harder to criticize the questionable logic shown in horror movies. “He knew he was bitten by that zombie. Why would he stay with the group, knowing he was going to turn and put them all at risk?” I've literally been saying to people since March when they get annoyed with my draconian Covid policies: "I don't want to be the dumb character in the zombie/horror movie. I want to be the smart one who lives until the end - the joke character post-credits scene who just steps out of the closet he's been hiding in for the whole movie rather than running around like an idiot." I continue this principle even now. People often have nothing to say when I frame it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: It reminds me of how Dan Carlin often talks about how he thinks the study of history should try to take more into account human elements like terror. Like, how did it actually feel to be in a city besieged by Mongols knowing if you lost every man, woman, and child would be slaughtered. Or what was it like being surrounded at the battle of Cannae. Especially being on the inner part of the enclosed army. Unable to move, much less fight back, having to wait an hour, two hours, maybe more while the outer lines are killed around you and you are just there waiting to die. Only when appreciating these human elements can you look back at a historical event and get some understanding of why these things sometimes take place in contravention of all sense or logic. Sometimes people act stupid because they're scared, or stubborn, or they believed lies, etc. More than once I have thought about how explaining the Trump years 20-30 years down the line will be completely inexplicable. But the Trump years themselves have made me wonder if even that idea is too optimistic. It kind of assumes things get better so these dark years need explaining. The other option is that we look back on the Trump years as at least not as bad as the hellscape of 2050..... My biggest source of optimism is that we aren't medically advanced enough to allow the boomers to use their hoarded wealth to live forever. I don't have much hope for Gen X folks that were raised by that wildly selfish generation, but the Millennials and Zoomers growing up in poverty compared to previous generations could make some serious change. What the pandemic/climate change landscape looks like then will be an entirely different question. The racist landscape will also be worlds different and this lockdown year likely accelerated that. White folks under 18 are officially a minority this year. There could, maybe, be a light at the end of white supremacist politics. Who knows. Trump is either the crest or the sign of worst things to come. I'm hoping for crest here because it'll make life a LOT easier for my brown kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Jason said: I really don't understand how someone in HEALTHCARE can be so stupid about this. You always hear people talk about "I know this nurse, and she doesn't get vaccines or the flu shot", and it's like, how? How can this happen? @CastlevaniaNut18 you must have stories of colleagues who are like this. What do you find is the rationale behind healthcare providers who are anti-vaxx, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: My biggest source of optimism is that we aren't medically advanced enough to allow the boomers to use their hoarded wealth to live forever. I don't have much hope for Gen X folks that were raised by that wildly selfish generation, but the Millennials and Zoomers growing up in poverty compared to previous generations could make some serious change. What the pandemic/climate change landscape looks like then will be an entirely different question. The racist landscape will also be worlds different and this lockdown year likely accelerated that. White folks under 18 are officially a minority this year. There could, maybe, be a light at the end of white supremacist politics. Who knows. Trump is either the crest or the sign of worst things to come. I'm hoping for crest here because it'll make life a LOT easier for my brown kids. I agree with everything you've said here - just to be clear, Gen X'ers were raised by the generation before Boomers, not Boomers themselves (for the most part - no rule/group is monolithic of course) - most people part of a generation are raised by one generation removed given age gaps. So Gen Xers were raised by the "silent generation/lucky few", millennials were raised by boomers (explains why millennials hate boomers so much) and zoomers are being raised by Gen Xers, and millennials now having kids are raising "generation alpha". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 ‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy, emails reveal - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Then-HHS science adviser Paul Alexander called for millions of Americans to be infected as means of fighting Covid-19. Quote A top Trump appointee repeatedly urged top health officials to adopt a "herd immunity" approach to Covid-19 and allow millions of Americans to be infected by the virus, according to internal emails obtained by a House watchdog and shared with POLITICO. “There is no other way, we need to establish herd, and it only comes about allowing the non-high risk groups expose themselves to the virus. PERIOD," then-science adviser Paul Alexander wrote on July 4 to his boss, Health and Human Services assistant secretary for public affairs Michael Caputo, and six other senior officials. "Infants, kids, teens, young people, young adults, middle aged with no conditions etc. have zero to little risk….so we use them to develop herd…we want them infected…" Alexander added. "It may be that it will be best if we open up and flood the zone and let the kids and young folk get infected" in order to get "natural immunity…natural exposure," Alexander wrote on July 24 to Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Caputo and eight other senior officials. Caputo subsequently asked Alexander to research the idea, according to emails obtained by the House Oversight Committee's select subcommittee on coronavirus. Alexander also argued that colleges should stay open to allow Covid-19 infections to spread, lamenting in a July 27 email to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield that “we essentially took off the battlefield the most potent weapon we had...younger healthy people, children, teens, young people who we needed to fastly [sic] infect themselves, spread it around, develop immunity, and help stop the spread.” Monsters who deserve the firing squad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I agree with everything you've said here - just to be clear, Gen X'ers were raised by the generation before Boomers, not Boomers themselves (for the most part - no rule/group is monolithic of course) - most people part of a generation are raised by one generation removed given age gaps. So Gen Xers were raised by the "silent generation/lucky few", millennials were raised by boomers (explains why millennials hate boomers so much) and zoomers are being raised by Gen Xers, and millennials now having kids are raising "generation alpha". I always forget just how far back Gen X goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: I always forget just how far back Gen X goes. Haha agreed - before Gen X the generation gaps varied, but starting with Gen X, every generation spans 15 years. So 1965-1980 for Gen X, 1981-1996 for Millennials, and so forth. Hell, the "greatest generation" spanned 26 years by comparison, since sharing in one generation's beliefs/lifestyles/cultures wasn't as pervasive and definitive as we've figured out it is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, TheLeon said: I can’t remember if it was here or elsewhere that I read this, but after the way we’ve handled this pandemic, it’s harder to criticize the questionable logic shown in horror movies. “He knew he was bitten by that zombie. Why would he stay with the group, knowing he was going to turn and put them all at risk?” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I agree with everything you've said here - just to be clear, Gen X'ers were raised by the generation before Boomers, not Boomers themselves (for the most part - no rule/group is monolithic of course) - most people part of a generation are raised by one generation removed given age gaps. So Gen Xers were raised by the "silent generation/lucky few", millennials were raised by boomers (explains why millennials hate boomers so much) and zoomers are being raised by Gen Xers, and millennials now having kids are raising "generation alpha". I don't think your math checks out. I am the youngest of 3 brothers and was born in 79, both of my parents are firmly in the Baby Boom generation (Dad was born in 49, Mom in 53). I know you qualified it, but I would guess that almost half of Gen X was raised by Boomer parents because people tended to have families at a much younger age back then. An early boomer would have been 20 in 66 and it probably wouldn't be weird for them to have children at that age. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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