Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Senate invites fringe, unscientific medical group to testify about COVID ARSTECHNICA.COM The latest conservative flirtation with a group that's both libertarian and deranged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Isn’t the “natural immunity” only 3-9 months or am I grossly misinformed? We know it lasts at least 9 months because that's how long we've been able to study it so far. However, it appears to be similar to SARS (the virus), and that one provoked 10+ year immunity in those who got it. There have been a handful of people globally (out of tens of millions) who have caught it a second time, but that happens with any contagious illness—some people's immune systems just don't work properly. I am fairly optimistic (and researchers are as well) that the virus and vaccine will both provide 10+ years of immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 What I'm curious about is if the vaccine for this coronavirus will create any cross-immunity for other coronaviruses like the common cold. Obviously too early to tell on this, and the tech for this vaccine is different than the flu vaccines mind you, but the seasonal flu vaccine gives you some protection against similar strands of the flu at least temporarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: What I'm curious about is if the vaccine for this coronavirus will create any cross-immunity for other coronaviruses like the common cold. Obviously too early to tell on this, and the tech for this vaccine is different than the flu vaccines mind you, but the seasonal flu vaccine gives you some protection against similar strands of the flu at least temporarily. Likewise I wonder if people exposed to the 2002-2004 SARS have any lingering immunity to COVID-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Jason said: Likewise I wonder if people exposed to the 2002-2004 SARS have any lingering immunity to COVID-19. This has been suggested as a possible reason for why the virus has not really spread well in East Asian countries. Just a theory at this point, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Joe said: This has been suggested as a possible reason for why the virus has not really spread well in East Asian countries. Just a theory at this point, however. Only like 8k people got the first SARS tho It seems to have made east asian countries take epidemiology and public health more seriously than us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Over half of NYC firefighters would refuse COVID-19 vaccine, survey finds - ABC News ABCNEWS.GO.COM More than 50% of New York City firefighters said in a survey that they would not take a COVID-19 vaccine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: What % of the US has had COVID already? Probably a good estimate is take the official account and x2, so that would be around 30 million (so around 9%). So if you can get 60% of the pop to take the vaccine, that's 69%, which is probably enough for herd immunity to kick in (assuming 90-95% effective vaccine) to stop the spread. I mean, another 10-20% of the US will have likely had the virus by then anyway. Nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: Over half of NYC firefighters would refuse COVID-19 vaccine, survey finds - ABC News ABCNEWS.GO.COM More than 50% of New York City firefighters said in a survey that they would not take a COVID-19 vaccine. Most don't become firefighters due to intelligence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Over half of NYC firefighters would refuse COVID-19 vaccine, survey finds - ABC News ABCNEWS.GO.COM More than 50% of New York City firefighters said in a survey that they would not take a COVID-19 vaccine. They really need to clamp down on this shit. Don’t want to get the vaccine? You get sent home and don’t get paid until you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, MarSolo said: They really need to clamp down on this shit. Don’t want to get the vaccine? You get sent home and don’t get paid until you do. They'll do what their crybaby cop brothers do: refuse to work to the detriment of the public because they're being held accountable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, MarSolo said: They really need to clamp down on this shit. Don’t want to get the vaccine? You get sent home and don’t get paid until you do. Yeah I think government employees shouldn't have a choice, except if they can prove they could have an adverse reaction or are immuno-compromised in a way that a vaccine could be dangerous. This applies doubly to people working in healthcare and first responders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Yeah I think government employees shouldn't have a choice, except if they can prove they could have an adverse reaction or are immuno-compromised in a way that a vaccine could be dangerous. This applies doubly to people working in healthcare and first responders. Govt: "here's your ticket to the front of the line to protect yourself and your community from an incurable virus because we know how important you job is to the safety and functioning of the community, something you remind us of all the time" These chuds: "lol nah fake gyna virus get fucked lib cuck government" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, MarSolo said: They really need to clamp down on this shit. Don’t want to get the vaccine? You get sent home and don’t get paid until you do. If you ever watch Live Rescue on A&E, you'll see a terrifying number of first responders without PPE. In some departments, you'll see some wearing it and others not. It's pretty horrific wondering how many peoples lives they have put in danger when those on the front line should be the most responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Pfizer and Moderna turn down White House invitation to a ‘vaccine summit’ WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK The White House gathering is seen as a stunt for Donald Trump to claim credit for the vaccine 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I wish he died from covid back in October 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I wish he died There now it’s evergreen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Of course this happened. We shouldn't even be surprised at this point Trump went the extra mile to ensure more Americans die and our economic troubles will be extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, vaxick said: Of course this happened. We shouldn't even be surprised at this point Trump went the extra mile to ensure more Americans die and our economic troubles will be extended. They were probably going to just vaccinate the 1% and let everyone else fend for themselves, being too stupid to realize the vaccine won't work well for them either unless the vast majority of people get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: They were probably going to just vaccinate the 1% and let everyone else fend for themselves, being too stupid to realize the vaccine won't work well for them either unless the vast majority of people get it. I'm sure plenty of them are galavanting around New Zealand with Gabe Newell at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, vaxick said: I'm sure plenty of them are galavanting around New Zealand with Gabe Newell at this point. Man, talk about being lucky as shit both getting stranded in New Zealand at the start of this and having the money to just decide to stay indefinitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: Man, talk about being lucky as shit both getting stranded in New Zealand at the start of this and having the money to just decide to stay indefinitely. The 1% have basically been prepping for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, MarSolo said: I see the vaccine like the PS5 launch. I am not an anti-vaxxer at all, but since there is limited supply I am not going to throat punch someone on Black Friday to score one. I'll get one when it's readily available and consider others beta testing it a bit as a nice side effect.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 How much of the Moderna vaccine are we going to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I see the vaccine like the PS5 launch. I am not an anti-vaxxer at all, but since there is limited supply I am not going to throat punch someone on Black Friday to score one. I'll get one when it's readily available and consider others beta testing it a bit as a nice side effect.... The use of beta tester is kind of numb in this setup because beta testers where those taking the phase 2&3 trials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, chakoo said: The use of beta tester is kind of numb in this setup because beta testers where those taking the phase 2&3 trials. I wonder how day one patches of vaccines works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who built COVID-19 dashboard WWW.TALLAHASSEE.COM "They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids," Rebekah Jones tweeted. Fucking swine. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Canada is starting to get the Pfizer vaccine as early as next week with us getting 250k doses for December. It’s an alright start and will hopefully help those working in hospitals and LTCFs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jason said: I wonder how day one patches of vaccines works. Booster shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who built COVID-19 dashboard WWW.TALLAHASSEE.COM "They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids," Rebekah Jones tweeted. Fucking swine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 For once, I'll be at the front of the line for something. Now if only I could get a 3080... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The White House - Today, First Lady Melania Trump... | Facebook WWW.FACEBOOK.COM Today, First Lady Melania Trump announced the completion of the Tennis Pavilion on the White House grounds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Agents raid home of fired Florida data scientist who built COVID-19 dashboard WWW.TALLAHASSEE.COM "They pointed a gun in my face. They pointed guns at my kids," Rebekah Jones tweeted. Fucking swine. Here are the rest of her tweets. I want to slowly peel DeSantis's skin from his body. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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