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2 hours ago, Jason said:

 

1. Do we have numbers about pneumonia hospitalizations vs the same time period the previous year? 

2. It's possible the initial strain wasn't as deadly and then it mutated. 

What's possible is that there WERE hospitalizations and people were sent home. MOST folks that get this don't get hospitalized. I just found out today that My Uncle who works at a hospital here in NJ tested positive. I spoke to him today and he's fine. He has a cough and a fever. That's it. He hasn't been hospitalized and is looking to go back to work next MONDAY.  He was diagnosed last Monday and given a test because he had a fever. He was quaratined and his test came back positive yesterday I think. If folks were getting sick back in January or December or even earlier before this pandemic was announced, how many people do you think would have even GONE to the doctor with those symptoms? Not many.

 

10 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

Hospitalizations would generate flu tests. If a bunch of people were coming in with pneumonia and testing negative for the standard causes (like flu), the medical community would be all over it and we would have been inundated with news stories about this mysterious illness.

 

Not necessarily... there was a shortage of Flu tests before this pandemic began too. My buddy, who suspects he may have had Covid 19, was very sick in late January after traveling abroad and DID go see his doctor. Not only was a Coronavirus Test out of the question, he didn't even get a Flu test because there was a shortage of flu tests as well. My brother was sick in mid January and WAS hospitalized and although the Doctors didn't know exactly what he had, they wrote it off as Pneumonia and sent him home when he was well enough.

 

3 hours ago, Bloodporne said:

I guess what I'm wondering is if there has been any talk of it having possibly been hitting prior to the official timeline?

 

I posted these articles earlier that discuss this very thing. Neither rules it out and I suggest everyone reads them before they draw conclusions.

 

 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html

 

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As new cases arose in other parts of the country, other researchers set up their own pipelines. The first positive test result in New York came on March 1, and after a couple of weeks, patients surged into the city’s hospitals. “I thought, ‘We need to do this for New York,’” Dr. Heguy said. Dr. Heguy and her colleagues found some New York viruses that shared unique mutations not found elsewhere. “That’s when you know you’ve had a silent transmission for a while,” she said. Dr. Heguy estimated that the virus began circulating in the New York area a couple of months ago.

 

This Snopes article goes in even further detail

 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/04/03/already-had-covid-19/

 

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The earliest reports from Chinese health officials regarding what would become known as COVID-19 implicated the Huanan fish market in Wuhan, China, as the source of the viral outbreak and Dec. 8, 2019, the day of its first recorded case. “Most of the unexplained viral pneumonia cases in Wuhan [at] this time have a history of exposure” to the market, a report from the city of Wuhan read in early January 2020.

Later, however, when a large team of Chinese researchers published a case study on Wuhan’s early COVID-19 cases, they revealed that only 27 of 41 patients had been exposed to the Huanan seafood market and that the first case had no known connection to it. Speaking to Science Magazine, Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, said that 13 cases with no link to the proposed origin was a “big number” and that the data demonstrate that “the virus came into that marketplace before it came out of that marketplace.”

Responding to questions from Science, the corresponding author on that early case study, Bin Cao, wrote, “It seems clear that [the] seafood market is not the only origin of the virus,” and that “to be honest, we still do not know where the virus came from now.” According to the South China Morning Post, Chinese government documents now trace the first confirmed case to a Nov. 17 illness contracted by “a 55 year-old from Hubei province” — which contains Wuhan. 

Lucey, writing in a blog post for the Infectious Diseases Society of America, argued: If initial and potentially repeated animal-person transmission, followed by subsequent person-to-person transmission, could have begun in October-November or earlier in 2019, then patients with pneumonia due to infection with the novel coronavirus […] could have started to spread across Wuhan, and by infected-travelers leaving Wuhan to other locations. Can we rule out that travels from China went to the US or elsewhere and set off small clusters of COVID cases that never got established? Seems very unlikely, but we won’t really know for sure until these serological tests are perfected.

 

 

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1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

GOP protesters in Michigan (at the anti-distancing rally) are also blocking the entry and exit streets to the local hospital:

 

Give them all tickets for knowingly blocking an ambulance route.

 

<3 Lets hope a bunch of these POS get sick with COVID so they can tell us how fake it feels. 

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The organizers' Facebook page was flooded with comments, both in support and against the protest.

 

"Can people PLEASE stay in their cars, and if they get out, to wear masks and practice social distancing?" one Facebook user posted. "The statists will use any excuse to discredit the protest, so please don't give them a freebie."

 

"The guys on the steps of the (Capitol) are putting this protest backwards," another wrote. "Now we are going to be portrayed as far right extremist. Thanks allot jerks...Stay in your dam car and put the freaking rifles away...You're going to ruin this for everyone!"

 

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"We know this rally endangered people," she said, adding that such activity "will put more people at risks and could prolong how long we need to be in this posture."

 

She said it was a "sad irony" that the protest may necessitate to a lengthening of the stay-at-home order.

 

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3 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Not necessarily... there was a shortage of Flu tests before this pandemic began too. My buddy, who suspects he may have had Covid 19, was very sick in late January after traveling abroad and DID go see his doctor. Not only was a Coronavirus Test out of the question, he didn't even get a Flu test because there was a shortage of flu tests as well. My brother was sick in mid January and WAS hospitalized and although the Doctors didn't know exactly what he had, they wrote it off as Pneumonia and sent him home when he was well enough.

The flu test shortage, which was very brief, was because a TON of people were getting the flu and testing positive for it along with dumping some older tests in favor of newer more accurate ones. It was a very bad flu season. The testing shortage wasn't felt in hospitals, it was primarily in retail clinics.

Your mutation theory also doesn't hold because the genome tracking of the mutations in the virus show minimal mutation all the way back to the earliest Wuhan cases.

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1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

 

See, this is a situation in which the Trump side taking of SCOTUS gives the mechanism to the President to do something really awful.

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37 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

Trump all but confirms that this virus originated in a lab in Wuhan. 

 

That isn't to say it was man-made, but that the outbreak originated in a lab. 

I'm starting to come around to that thinking as well... mainly because the species of Bat that the virus came from isn't native to that part of China. It's habitat is a 1,000 miles away. Sounds like The Wuhan lab wasn't as secure as it should have been... of course the administration was warned that something like this could happen. Guess what they did?

 

21 minutes ago, sblfilms said:


Your mutation theory also doesn't hold because the genome tracking of the mutations in the virus show minimal mutation all the way back to the earliest Wuhan cases.

 

I don't have a mutation theory... I didn't say anything about mutation. None of this is coming from ME. I'm just sharing what I'm reading. And once again... the earliest cases DID NOT ORIGINATE IN WUHAN. It originated in the Province (State) that contains Wuhan (City).

 

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/04/03/already-had-covid-19/

 

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Responding to questions from Science, the corresponding author on that early case study, Bin Cao, wrote, “It seems clear that [the] seafood market is not the only origin of the virus,” and that “to be honest, we still do not know where the virus came from now.” According to the South China Morning Post, Chinese government documents now trace the first confirmed case to a Nov. 17 illness contracted by “a 55 year-old from Hubei province” — which contains Wuhan.

 

The Chinese Government is not telling us everything and they are desperately covering their asses.

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Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

All of the imperial presidency ghouls are in on it. They want this, but will howl when a Democrat had the power

 

Don't worry, if they pull this off the first order of business will be making it illegal for Democrats to be in power. 

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3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

GOP protesters in Michigan (at the anti-distancing rally) are also blocking the entry and exit streets to the local hospital:

 

Give them all tickets for knowingly blocking an ambulance route.

 

Why didn’t they get out in person??

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1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

I don't have a mutation theory... I didn't say anything about mutation.

My bad, I was responding while at the eye doctor after my eyes got dilated and couldn’t tell that you were quoting Jason :lol: 

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