osxmatt Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jason said: That tweet aged about as well as KellyAnne Conway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Looks like at the end of today New York state by itself will have more cases (officially) than any nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Great news, I'm sure the corporate "bailouts" will proceed without any hint of corruption now that the watchdog has been removed! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Looks like at the end of today New York state by itself will have more cases (officially) than any nation. Any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I'm pretty sure most of today's press conference questions will NOT consist of actual questions about the state of the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Looks like at the end of today New York state by itself will have more cases (officially) than any nation. Good news is that Italy, Spain, and NY look to be flattening the curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 There is increasing feeling in the small business world that the $349 billion for small businesses is basically a back door bank bailout program. The main reason that the PPP is run through banks, but banks have almost all decided to limit applications to businesses that have an existing business account with them, and in some cases requiring an existing credit product with the bank. The thinking is that the banks are using these federally guaranteed loans to prop up business that owe them money or otherwise generate significant revenue for the bank. I don't think that line of thinking is without merit and sounds about right for the financial sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: There is increasing feeling in the small business world that the $349 billion for small businesses is basically a back door bank bailout program. The main reason that the PPP is run through banks, but banks have almost all decided to limit applications to businesses that have an existing business account with them, and in some cases requiring an existing credit product with the bank. The thinking is that the banks are using these federally guaranteed loans to prop up business that owe them money or otherwise generate significant revenue for the bank. I don't think that line of thinking is without merit and sounds about right for the financial sector. Sounds shady and shitty. 13 minutes ago, Amazatron said: Good news is that Italy, Spain, and NY look to be flattening the curve. It's good news, but unfortunately their new cases aren't declining very fast, they are just not increasing. Getting the curve down to 2% daily or lower (the point where it is "under control," apparently) is going to take far longer than it took to reach the peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: It's good news, but unfortunately their new cases aren't declining very fast, they are just not increasing. Getting the curve down to 2% daily or lower (the point where it is "under control," apparently) is going to take far longer than it took to reach the peak. Yeah, this will linger for awhile, especially in the U.S. since each state is on their own time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I do see a lot of people bragging about how it's getting "better" because the daily rate of increase is dropping. That IS good! But a dropping daily % doesn't mean new cases are decreasing: If you have 100 cases in total and 50 more are added the next day, then you have a 50% daily increase. If another 60 are added the day after that, your daily increase has dropped to 40% (60/150), but the amount of new cases has still increased day-to-day. Obviously having the daily % rate dropping is a good thing as it means the exponential curve is dropping, and over time this prevents a lot of new cases. But it's important to look at both the daily % increase as well as the absolute number of new cases. Linear growth is better than exponential growth, but it's still growth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 "Moistly" is trending in Canada: He is correct, of course, that temporary masks will help people around you (if you are sick), but won't really help you (the wearer). Of course, if everyone is wearing them, then everyone is safer (and also still practices distancing, isolation, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Unless you are referring to cake, moist is the worst word in the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: I do see a lot of people bragging about how it's getting "better" because the daily rate of increase is dropping. That IS good! But a dropping daily % doesn't mean new cases are decreasing: If you have 100 cases in total and 50 more are added the next day, then you have a 50% daily increase. If another 60 are added the day after that, your daily increase has dropped to 40% (60/150), but the amount of new cases has still increased day-to-day. Obviously having the daily % rate dropping is a good thing as it means the exponential curve is dropping, and over time this prevents a lot of new cases. But it's important to look at both the daily % increase as well as the absolute number of new cases. Linear growth is better than exponential growth, but it's still growth! Umm, absolute daily new cases is dropping. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/new-york-coronavirus-cases.html https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 position, velocity, acceleration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Amazatron said: Umm, absolute daily new cases is dropping. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/new-york-coronavirus-cases.html https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/ Sorry I didn't mean in their specific cases, only that a dropping daily % doesn't necessarily mean a dropping linear amount as well! We could have a jurisdiction have the same new daily numbers for a year, and the daily % would continue to decrease the entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: Wow. Something actually good happened this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Wow. Something actually good happened this week. Has Trump ever replaced anyone with someone better? I'm sure you're about to get an even worse "acting" secretary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, CitizenVectron said: Has Trump ever replaced anyone with someone better? I'm sure you're about to get an even worse "acting" secretary. Would anyone be surprised if he appointed Chief Eddie Gallagher as SecNav? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: Has Trump ever replaced anyone with someone better? I'm sure you're about to get an even worse "acting" secretary. Acting Navy Secretary Joe Arpao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 26 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Unless you are referring to cake, moist is the worst word in the English language. I don’t know, I can name one thing that sounds great with the word moist attached to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Commodore D said: I don’t know, I can name one thing that sounds great with the word moist attached to it. Saltines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Commodore D said: I don’t know, I can name one thing that sounds great with the word moist attached to it. Beat me to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Mayor Eric Garcetti announced that ANY LA Resident can now be tested for Coronavirus... if they are displaying symptoms. Quote Los Angeles County is expanding coronavirus testing to more people. Officials emphasized that the expansion doesn’t necessarily mean there will be enough tests for everyone who wants one, but it should increase access to the tests. L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti announced Monday evening that any resident who has symptoms and wants to be tested for the coronavirus can now apply online to be tested. The new regimen applies to anyone in Los Angeles County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Mayor Eric Garcetti announced that ANY LA Resident can now be tested for Coronavirus... if they are displaying symptoms. America alone will need probably a billion tests if we want to get our lives back to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, Commodore D said: I don’t know, I can name one thing that sounds great with the word moist attached to it. 15 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Beat me to it... Are you thinking about the earth soaked with the freshly-spilled blood and viscera of your enemies too?!? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Here in Lowell, MA we finally have drive through testing. They can only cover a thousand people a day, so it looks like they're keeping it just to folks that are high risk, even if they don't have any symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 In all the coronavirus commotion, I think this may have been overlooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: In all the coronavirus commotion, I think this may have been overlooked. I saw that Bullshit... fuck him. If it wasn't for gerrymandering mass incarceration and voter suppression Mississippi would be a blue state. It's just matter of time. That picture look like a goddamned Klan rally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, osxmatt said: In all the coronavirus commotion, I think this may have been overlooked. This is like celebrating when your favorite team loses the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 The separation of Church and state continues to close. Quote In a development that could challenge the Constitution's prohibition of any law "respecting an establishment of religion," the federal government will soon provide money directly to U.S. churches to help them pay pastor salaries and utility bills. A key part of the $2 trillion economic relief legislation enacted last month includes about $350 billion for the Small Business Administration to extend loans to small businesses facing financial difficulties as a result of the coronavirus shutdown orders. Churches and other faith-based organizations are among the businesses that qualify for aid under the program, even if they have an exclusively religious orientation. This is cool and all but they need to pay taxes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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