Jwheel86 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Captain's letter begging for help. He's recommending two options: do nothing, sailors die, and fight sick OR offload the Carrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I'm glad that some insurance companies are waiving copays and whatnot for coronavirus, but if you don't have insurance in the first place because you lost your job, then you are kind of shit out of luck. I'm sure (and hope) that this pandemic will accelerate the timeline for universal healthcare - whether that means a public option or single payer. (It won't) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I mean, you sort of have to in states that require you to use gun stores to transfer guns from one person to another - otherwise you eliminate the ability for a person to legally acquire a gun. I'm just not seeing a downside anywhere in this post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I'm just not seeing a downside anywhere in this post. Well, if your neighborhood has gone to shit it might be kind of comforting to be able to purchase a gun to protect yourself, especially if the police are effectively incapacitated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Well, if your neighborhood has gone to shit it might be kind of comforting to be able to purchase a gun to protect yourself, especially if the police are effectively incapacitated as well. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: No. Unemployment is likely to reach 30% - which is above what was experience at the height of the great depression. People are going to become desperate - I have no doubt that home break-ins will become more common over the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Saskatchewan's schools (and Alberta, too) have already been shut down for the whole school year. We've also heard rumblings to prepare for online-only in September as well, just in case. They sent out the following email last night, the board is looking at distributing technology and providing internet to families who don't have it. Quote This is [teacher name], your child’s homeroom teacher at [school name] School. I’m reaching out to check in on [my son's name] and to find out how the Peel District School Board can support your family by helping with access to technology. In the coming weeks and months, we need to think about how teaching and learning can continue from home. The Peel board has a responsibility to ensure that every student has access to learning at home and we are all working diligently to ensure that all learning needs are met. Today, I’m following up on a message that you received from the Peel board. They are currently working to identify technology requirements in all Peel board households. They’ve asked teachers to reach out to families and I’m hoping you have a moment to answer seven quick questions. If you’ve already provided this information to another teacher, you don’t need to respond to the questions. Just reply to this email to let me know that you’ve already provided the information. Please respond to these questions by 4:30 p.m. on Tuesday, March 31, 2020: · Name of the parent/guardian · Preferred email address · Best phone number for parent/guardian · Do you have other children living in your household, besides the one(s) I teach, who attend a Peel board school? Yes/No · Do you have access to a device that you can use to do your school work at home? Yes or No · If so, which type of device does your child/teen have access to? Laptop, tablet, desktop or cell phone? · Do you have access to the Internet at home? Yes or No The Peel board will continue to share more information and resources with students and families, as they become available, at www.peelschools.org As the board works to identify students who are most in need of devices and Internet access, they will reach out to families directly. We expect that this will happen over the next week or so. Thank you for your time. Keep safe. While It is prudent to plan ahead for the fall, if we are still trying to self-isolate in September, the societal impacts may be worse than the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Captain's letter begging for help. He's recommending two options: do nothing, sailors die, and fight sick OR offload the Carrier. For days I’ve been wondering how the military is doing with cases. We haven’t heard much on them. I wondered if bases were on lock down and leave canceled due to corona to try and isolate the soldiers from an infected general population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Some states STILL aren't doing it. Arizona is only starting today, and it's really a soft stay at home order, our cases have relatively exploded over the last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Well, if your neighborhood has gone to shit it might be kind of comforting to be able to purchase a gun to protect yourself, especially if the police are effectively incapacitated as well. If it reaches a point where the need to own a firearm is unequivocal, then you are already SOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris- said: If it reaches a point where the need to own a firearm is unequivocal, then you are already SOL. Fair enough Edit: I guess my point is that people would rather at least have the option of protecting themselves, than "roll over and take it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Amazatron Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Well, if your neighborhood has gone to shit it might be kind of comforting to be able to purchase a gun to protect yourself, especially if the police are effectively incapacitated as well. If my neighborhood goes to shit, I certainly don't want a bunch of new gun owner jackoffs running around playing Walking Dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 If you're working from home full time, not really leaving anywhere, and people are breaking in to your home.... Things would have really really hit the fan anyway. "Essential" workers are those who will first be robbed by my estimation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Well, if your neighborhood has gone to shit it might be kind of comforting to be able to purchase a gun to protect yourself, especially if the police are effectively incapacitated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: They sent out the following email last night, the board is looking at distributing technology and providing internet to families who don't have it. While It is prudent to plan ahead for the fall, if we are still trying to self-isolate in September, the societal impacts may be worse than the alternative. Yeah we are prepping a few hundred laptops right now (from our schools) for poor students to have at home to provide equality of access. We might also get airsticks if they don't have home internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Wuhan Residents Dismiss Official Coronavirus Death Toll: ‘The Incinerators Have Been Working Around the Clock’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Lancet journal just released a study that says the mortality rate is only 0.66%, not higher. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Lancet journal just released a study that says the mortality rate is only 0.66%, not higher. https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html tl;dr: Did that study only look at coronavirus, or did it also look at the corresponding deaths due to not being able to treat everyone? By that I mean, if a hospital is completely full of coronavirus patients with limited medical staff, does it take into account heart attack victims who simply were unable to be saved because of the pandemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: tl;dr: Did that study only look at coronavirus, or did it also look at the corresponding deaths due to not being able to treat everyone? By that I mean, if a hospital is completely full of coronavirus patients with limited medical staff, does it take into account heart attack victims who simply were unable to be saved because of the pandemic? I think it only looked at COVID-19 patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: tl;dr: Did that study only look at coronavirus, or did it also look at the corresponding deaths due to not being able to treat everyone? By that I mean, if a hospital is completely full of coronavirus patients with limited medical staff, does it take into account heart attack victims who simply were unable to be saved because of the pandemic? Ehhhhh - that really should not factor at all into a study of the mortality of COVID-19 itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 hours ago, AbsolutSurgen said: My kid's teachers have reached out to me, to confirm availability of internet, computers and tablets. Wife called all her students this morning to do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Ehhhhh - that really should not factor at all into a study of the mortality of COVID-19 itself. I feel like it should, because this kind of thing is what gets used to say it's not big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, finaljedi said: I feel like it should, because this kind of thing is what gets used to say it's not big deal. Exactly. Now you are going to have a bunch of people use this study to argue we need to "reopen America" now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, finaljedi said: I feel like it should, because this kind of thing is what gets used to say it's not big deal. 19 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Exactly. Now you are going to have a bunch of people use this study to argue we need to "reopen America" now. That defintely should be part of a different study, but not one whose scope is to quantify the actual mortality of COVID-19 itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, finaljedi said: I feel like it should, because this kind of thing is what gets used to say it's not big deal. Should the fewer traffic fatalities due to self isolation be taken into account as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Harris County just extended the shelter at home order though the end of April. They had the CEOs of the major hospitals in Houston at the press conference and said the peak will hit around May 1 in the Houston area if we continue to buckle down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Should the fewer traffic fatalities due to self isolation be taken into account as well? Preventable deaths should be taken into account. A flattened curve would feature fewer ancillary deaths due to keeping hospitals from becoming over-burdened. That difference matters. Lives saved from fewer people driving to work would be a nice number to have on hand to argue for an increases to the use of public transportation or even just telecommuting. That argument, however, has nothing to do with whether we're doing a good or bad job keeping this pandemic in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Preventable deaths should be taken into account. In a completely different study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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