marioandsonic Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Scott said: This is my exact belief as well. I’m willing to believe we’ll have made great progress on flattening the curve in the next few months. Asia is getting back to normal. Italy is leveling off. Aid will be dispensed, and the trump propaganda machine will be running at full force convincing everyone that trump’s great leadership is responsible for any and all recovery we’ve experienced. Once the economy comes back, especially with rates at 0, shit will be booming and it will be one more weapon repub propagandists can use to tout trump, right in time for the election. I think at that point people will care more about getting back to normal life than removing trump from office. I hope I’m wrong. This is what will happen, and I will drink myself to death on election night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Man, a lot of y'all expected Trump to win anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Nevada governor shutting down all non-essential businesses, including the casinos: https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/sisolak-to-order-statewide-closure-of-non-essential-businesses-including-casinos-following-in-footsteps-of-other-states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 The short term hit to the economy is going to be unlike anything any of us have ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: Not at all - I am being completely direct and honest about how much I utterly despise it. I hate the word mainly because it gives journalists and pundits, alike, a word they can use to avoid calling Trump a liar while feeling good about how technically right they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184308/coronavirus-italy-medical-company-threatens-sue-3d-print-valves-treatments The CEO of this company is going up against the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184308/coronavirus-italy-medical-company-threatens-sue-3d-print-valves-treatments The CEO of this company is going up against the wall Is he going to get the Mussolini treatment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Nevada governor shutting down all non-essential businesses, including the casinos: https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/sisolak-to-order-statewide-closure-of-non-essential-businesses-including-casinos-following-in-footsteps-of-other-states Hopefully he clarifies what businesses are non-essential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Man, a lot of y'all expected Trump to win anyway. I totally did... only recently have I started to think there may be a smidgen of hope. Just a smidgen... the American electorate is getting the government we deserve so, yeah. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Remarkableriots said: Hopefully he clarifies what businesses are non-essential. Yeah, I'm curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Man, a lot of y'all expected Trump to win anyway. My position on that has not shifted: I expect him to win electorally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, sblfilms said: https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/17/21184308/coronavirus-italy-medical-company-threatens-sue-3d-print-valves-treatments The CEO of this company is going up against the wall Reminds me of the company that bought up the old Theranos patents suing because one of the companies working on a COVID-19 test may be infringing on their patents. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/firm-uses-theranos-patents-to-sue-company-making-coronavirus-test/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: The short term hit to the economy is going to be unlike anything any of us have ever seen My prediction: 1Q GDP: 0.0% 2Q GDP: -6.5% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, Ghost_MH said: Reminds me of the company that bought up the old Theranos patents suing because one of the companies working on a COVID-19 test may be infringing on their patents. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/firm-uses-theranos-patents-to-sue-company-making-coronavirus-test/ The medical industry is full of a bunch of assholes, that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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johnny Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I’ve been legit getting upset throughout the day for people who are losing their jobs and this government has absolutely no plan to help them. I’m super thankful I and my immediate family have secure jobs right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 "The Man Who Saw The Pandemic Coming" For decades, Dennis Carroll has been a leading voice about the threat of zoonotic spillover, the transmission of pathogens from nonhuman animals to us. Scientists are confident the current outbreak, which began in Wuhan, China, stemmed from a virus inherent in bats. In 2009, after years of studying infectious diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), Carroll formed a USAID program called PREDICT, where he guided trailblazing research into viruses hiding, and waiting to emerge, in animals around the world. For a decade, PREDICT received annual federal funding of $15 to $20 million. In 2019, its funding wasn’t renewed. Carroll left USAID and formed a new program, the Global Virome Project, “to build on PREDICT’s scientific insights and experience,” he says. Quote In 2005, during the avian influenza, George W. Bush was on the phone routinely with leaders around the world about how to coordinate a global response. Barack Obama did the same in 2009 for the second H1N1 pandemic and in 2014 for the Ebola epidemic. You saw presidential leadership step up and act as a catalyst for forging a global way forward for a global problem. It has been absolute silence in this White House. I think the only reason the White House is even paying any lip service to this is because the stock market has gone into a free fall. So they’re trying to figure out what are the words they need to say to placate the stock market. Because the Trump administration is only interested in America first. Populism here and across Europe and elsewhere has fragmented the global networks, which had been so instrumental in being able to bring together a global approach to problems like this. I’ve not seen any reports coming out of the White House that showed that as China was struggling to bring the virus under control, our president reached out to President Xi to talk about how to coordinate action. I’m stunned by the absolute absence of global dialogue for what is a global event. In Europe right now, you would never believe that there was a European Union. From where I sit, it looks like every country is making this up as they go along. Italy isn’t coordinating with Brussels. Brussels isn’t coordinating with Germany. There’s no coherent regional approach to this problem in Europe, even though they have a platform for doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I haven’t left the house since Friday, but my wife and I decided to get out and take our son for a walk at the state Capitol. It was busy as ever. The same amount of cars downtown, the same parking lots full, the same traffic, the same hustle and bustle. It’s insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 More confirmation that the aid package tomorrow will include a new program for the self-employed and part-time workers that normally wouldn't be covered. Canada will also be raising the GST rebate, will be waiving interest on all money owed to the government, and will be increasing the Old Age Security payments (safety net for poor old people). https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-to-unveil-nearly-30-billion-economic-aid-package/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Oregon governor extending all school closures until April 28th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: More confirmation that the aid package tomorrow will include a new program for the self-employed and part-time workers that normally wouldn't be covered. Canada will also be raising the GST rebate, will be waiving interest on all money owed to the government, and will be increasing the Old Age Security payments (safety net for poor old people). https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ottawa-to-unveil-nearly-30-billion-economic-aid-package/ OK, we get it, you have actual leadership. Stop bragging*. * I'm totally kidding about you needing to stop, though sadly not the actual leadership part. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Nokra said: OK, we get it, you have actual leadership. Stop bragging. This is your first time talking to a Canadian, isn't it?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Jose said: This is your first time talking to a Canadian, isn't it?! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 This is a good way to ration/prevent hoarding of critical supplies: We should start seeing more of this in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: This is a good way to ration/prevent hoarding of critical supplies: We should start seeing more of this in America. Besides being kinda funny, how is this practically different from just being normal and limiting it to one per customer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, sblfilms said: Besides being kinda funny, how is this practically different from just being normal and limiting it to one per customer? If you have the money, and are stupid, you are allowed to buy a second bottle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: This is a good way to ration/prevent hoarding of critical supplies: We should start seeing more of this in America. Brb, off to buy two bottles! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 A little tidbit on how banks would be "bailed in" if it is necessary again in Canada. Changes were made after 2008: Quote There are now rules in place to make a "bail-in" of the banks possible. People who own bonds issued by the banks would have their bonds exchanged for equity in the bank. Essentially the banks would have a lot of their debt written off but the current shareholders of the bank would have their ownership diluted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 34 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: A little tidbit on how banks would be "bailed in" if it is necessary again in Canada. Changes were made after 2008: That gives me a raging boner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spawn_of_Apathy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: Besides being kinda funny, how is this practically different from just being normal and limiting it to one per customer? Freedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So the answer is a one time, means tested $1000 check? Lololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: That may be being generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If you count under-employment, the number will be much higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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