skillzdadirecta Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 On 5/22/2020 at 8:37 AM, Spork3245 said: They might as well just refilm the entire movie. About that... no cast reshoots. Quote "There’s not going to be any reshoots of any kind with any actors," Gonzalez stated. "It’s just additional dialogue. Here’s something that hasn’t been reported yet - [Zack Snyder] did want to shoot and he wanted to do additional photography but HBO Max said no, that’s not happening." "We’ll give you money for post-production," Gonzalez added, "for special effects, for scoring, and even ADR but no reshoots of any kind on this movie." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 3 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: About that... no cast reshoots. My expectations plummeted through the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 From what I’ve heard it’s being called the Snyder Cut, but it really isn’t. It still won’t be his original 2-part story line, nor the version he planned after the Studio decided it had to be one film. if they’re not even doing real-shoots, then I’m not sure why they’re bothering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: From what I’ve heard it’s being called the Snyder Cut, but it really isn’t. It still won’t be his original 2-part story line, nor the version he planned after the Studio decided it had to be one film. if they’re not even doing real-shoots, then I’m not sure why they’re bothering. To make money off of all the gullible DCFanboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Well, to be fair, according to Snyder 90% of his version of the film was already shot before he left it. Take that for whatever its worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 #ReleaseTheRealSnyderCut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 #letitdie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Cyborg was NOT a fan of Joss Whedon Quote Cyborg actor Ray Fisher has tweeted an explanation of why he wanted to "forcefully retract" his previous praise of Justice League director Joss Whedon, claiming Whedon's "on-set treatment of the cast and crew of Justice League was gross, abusive, unprofessional, and completely unacceptable."Fisher also blamed former DC Films co-leads Geoff Johns and Jon Berg because he believes they "enabled" Whedon's behavior. It started with THIS Tweet Then he clarified with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Well shit. I wonder in what way. I'd like to hear some examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Just now, Brick said: Well shit. I wonder in what way. I'd like to hear some examples. My guess is he came in with the attitude that he had to get shit done because he was up against a pretty tight deadline and didn't take the time to really placate the actors... I'm pulling that ENTIRELY out of my ass though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Cyborg was NOT a fan of Joss Whedon It started with THIS Tweet Then he clarified with this one. You know... given everything that’s happened in Hollywood recently, and is actively happening in America right now... it’s a fucking take for IGN to say: Quote It's unclear whether Fisher's slam is a personal beef with Whedon or simply about not liking the theatrical version of Justice League that Whedon shepherded, which was mandated to lighten up the darker tone of Snyder's version of the film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 I need to watch JL sometime,BvS really soured my stomach for the DCU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 59 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: You know... given everything that’s happened in Hollywood recently, and is actively happening in America right now... it’s a fucking take for IGN to say: I'm going to be embarrassed asking this, and it's probably something obvious I'm having a brain fart on, but what do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: My guess is he came in with the attitude that he had to get shit done because he was up against a pretty tight deadline and didn't take the time to really placate the actors... I'm pulling that ENTIRELY out of my ass though. I think that's pretty believable to me. At that point I think Johns, et. al. just wanted the thing done and over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, Brick said: I'm going to be embarrassed asking this, and it's probably something obvious I'm having a brain fart on, but what do you mean? Well the Hollywood bit is in reference to the loads of people in the industry credibly accused of harassment or worse, the current events bit is the ongoing revelation that the things black people have said were happening to them actually have been happening, there’s just footage of it available now that smart phones are prevalent. So in my opinion, it seems shitty for IGN’s take on a black actor claiming abuse to be, basically, “maybe this is a personal beef or he didn’t like the final cut.” Fisher could have said those things, he didn’t; he said Whedon’s behavior was abusive. I don’t see any reason to speculate that he meant anything other than what he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I think that's pretty believable to me. At that point I think Johns, et. al. just wanted the thing done and over with. Also most of the cast was VERY loyal to Snyder especially Fisher and Momoa so I'm sure there was some resentment there too... especially with him coming in and changing shit. Joe Morton, who played Cyborg's father said a lot of his story got changed by Wheedon so that probably didn't help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Also most of the cast was VERY loyal to Snyder especially Fisher and Momoa so I'm sure there was some resentment there too... especially with him coming in and changing shit. Joe Morton, who played Cyborg's father said a lot of his story got changed by Wheedon so that probably didn't help either. Yeah agreed - and I'd read the same as well. Snyder Cut will be interesting if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Well the Hollywood bit is in reference to the loads of people in the industry credibly accused of harassment or worse, the current events bit is the ongoing revelation that the things black people have said were happening to them actually have been happening, there’s just footage of it available now that smart phones are prevalent. So in my opinion, it seems shitty for IGN’s take on a black actor claiming abuse to be, basically, “maybe this is a personal beef or he didn’t like the final cut.” Fisher could have said those things, he didn’t; he said Whedon’s behavior was abusive. I don’t see any reason to speculate that he meant anything other than what he said. OK I get you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 IGN was just outed by several people about abuse and sexual allegations and then get the nuts to comment on this, the fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I saw one thing where Fisher was supposedly told by Whedon “I didn't take notes from RDJ, why would I take notes from you?” Some general jerky behavior if accurate. I am sure that didn’t sit well with people who loved how collaborative Snyder tried to be with the cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Joss Whedon seems like a pretty chill, and cool dude though. Have there ever been any other people that have commented on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Brick said: Joss Whedon seems like a pretty chill, and cool dude though. Have there ever been any other people that have commented on him? Yeah, unfortunately this isn’t the first time. https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/joss-whedons-controversies-and-alleged-bad-behavior-a-guide.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Brick said: Joss Whedon seems like a pretty chill, and cool dude though. Have there ever been any other people that have commented on him? Yeah, and I believe his long-time girlfriend said he was very psychologically abusive as well. But I thought on set he was a chill dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 hours ago, sexy_shapiro said: Yeah, unfortunately this isn’t the first time. https://www.thecut.com/2020/07/joss-whedons-controversies-and-alleged-bad-behavior-a-guide.html Actually came across that article last night. Guess he really is an asshole. Maybe that's why he really hasn't directed a full movie since Avengers Age of Ultron; people are just sick of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Brick said: Actually came across that article last night. Guess he really is an asshole. Maybe that's why he really hasn't directed a full movie since Avengers Age of Ultron; people are just sick of him. No. Whedon has never done a ton of directing, he has always spent just as much time with other artistic endeavours. I think he just likes to do what he wants. He did a lot of comics and other things over the last years. And there’s rumor of him working on something for tv. Even on Buffy and Angel, he didn’t do a ton of directing. I just don’t think its his favourite thing. his Avenger movies made a fortune, he wasn’t hard up for work. I think he’s just so rich he doesn’t care. He’s more interested in his own satisfaction. and in regards ti the op, the Snyder cut might be real, but it won’t be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: No. Whedon has never done a ton of directing, he has always spent just as much time with other artistic endeavours. I think he just likes to do what he wants. He did a lot of comics and other things over the last years. And there’s rumor of him working on something for tv. Even on Buffy and Angel, he didn’t do a ton of directing. I just don’t think its his favourite thing. his Avenger movies made a fortune, he wasn’t hard up for work. I think he’s just so rich he doesn’t care. He’s more interested in his own satisfaction. and in regards ti the op, the Snyder cut might be real, but it won’t be good. Yeah except even as a writer or producer he hasn't done much since Ultron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Brick said: Yeah except even as a writer or producer he hasn't done much since Ultron. He’s done comics and writing. And this. But im pretty sure its just a case of him doing whatever he wants, and not wanting to do movies right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 And isn’t he doing a series for hbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 The Plot thickens.... Quote Justice League producer and former Warner Bros. co-president of production Jon Berg has fired back at Cyborg actor Ray Fisher's claims that Berg and his former fellow DC Films exec Geoff Johns "enabled" any alleged bad behavior from director Joss Whedon on set, and also revealed one thing Fisher was upset about during the reshoots.Berg told Variety that it was "categorically untrue that we enabled any unprofessional behavior.'" Berg also said Fisher was upset that the filmmakers wanted him to utter one of Cyborg's signature catchphrases from his small screen appearances. I remember [Fisher] being upset that we wanted him to say ‘Booyaa,’ which is a well known saying of Cyborg in the animated series,” Berg said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Wasn’t there also scuttlebutt that Gadot didn’t want to do the scene where The Flash accidentally gropes Wonder Woman, so her stunt double did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Wasn’t there also scuttlebutt that Gadot didn’t want to do the scene where The Flash accidentally gropes Wonder Woman, so her stunt double did it? I never heard that but that definitely sound like a Wheedon thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 50 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: The Plot thickens.... Why would he be upset over "booya"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Why would he be upset over "booya"? Probably because he thought it was stupid and didn't "Get it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 I have the impression, not sure if it's from behind the scenes stuff I've watched or what, that Whedon is a real stickler for his scripts. I can imagine actors being told to 'stay in their lane' might not sit well with some. Still, it's no small thing to publicly call out a well known director like this. I feel like the default assumption should be that this is more than just Fisher having his feelings hurt four years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I have the impression, not sure if it's from behind the scenes stuff I've watched or what, that Whedon is a real stickler for his scripts. I can imagine actors being told to 'stay in their lane' might not sit well with some. Still, it's no small thing to publicly call out a well known director like this. I feel like the default assumption should be that this is more than just Fisher having his feelings hurt four years ago. Whedon is a writer first so I'm SURE he's a stickler for his lines being performed as written. I feel like I may have seen something to that effect somewhere too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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