Jason Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2019/11/15/trump-intervenes-in-three-military-justice-cases-involving-war-crimes-accusations-issuing-pardons/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Jesus Fucking Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, CitizenVectron said: Jesus Fucking Christ It gets better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 And again, this was AGAINST the wishes of The Pentagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 HE’S A FUCKING SHIT STAIN and apparently the other 3 were too. Why the fuck are these Republicans condemning his actions like this in house votes and then make him the rape victim for EVERYTHING ELSE he opens his stupid ass mouth for. He said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and get away with it, and people defend him on that too. I just hope that when he does this that it’s on himself Shawshank Warden style. Then I would agree with his statement for a change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Wow you guys sure hate the troops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 This is disgusting and infuriating. I think I need to take a break from the news, at least for a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: This is disgusting and infuriating. I think I need to take a break from the news, at least for a minute. But you'll miss 32 earth shattering developments in that time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Forever fuck Trump for emboldening and ennobling the worst America has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 God damn us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 America protects war criminals? Breaking news!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 This is actually one of the worse things this piece of shit President has done... it undermines military chain of command and its code of conduct, encourages the WORSE kinds of abuse in our military and sends a VERY disturbing and negative message to the world. All because this fucking draft dodging coward thinks it plays into his image of a strong man and that this will endear him to his base FUCK.THIS. DUDE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 So outrageous that Trump did what America has always done in public!!!! We need to take care of this low hanging fruit to give the impression that we aren't interventionist savages!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Imo Trump is just showing who America is here, at least it's honest. I can respect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: Imo Trump is just showing who America is here, at least it's honest. I can respect that. I sure can’t. Fuck this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 If it makes you feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, 2user1cup said: Imo Trump is just showing who America is here, at least it's honest. I can respect that. yeah I can't agree with you in this at all... once military leaders lose control of the rank and file in favor of civilian politicians who have no idea what combat or military discipline is or should be it's a wrap. The Pentagon wasn't against this for any altruistic reasons... they were against this because it sends the wrong message to enlisted men and weakens their control on the soldiers under their command. 1 minute ago, 2user1cup said: If it makes you feel better. This is fucking scary man. The only thing that I can see that would be worse is if he starts just casually pardoning cops that are clearly guilty in unarmed shootings. There's NOTHING normal about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Judges have been pardoning guilty cops for over a hundred and fifty years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: Judges have been pardoning guilty cops for over a hundred and fifty years. Different thing man... Finding someone innocent and pardoning them after they've been found guilty are ENTIRELY different.I'm not sure where you're going with this. What Trump did here was objectively worse than what you're talking about. There's a reason that military justice is harsher than civilian Justice and it's for cases like these three. Trump threw that ENTIRELY out the window with this decision so no... it's not "Business as usual" and shouldn't be taken that way. This sets a very bad precedent... not that our short sighted commander in chief gives a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 This president has exposed so many areas where the Executive Branch needs overhaul, pardons being one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 3 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Different thing man... Finding someone innocent and pardoning them after they've been found guilty are ENTIRELY different.I'm not sure where you're going with this. What Trump did here was objectively worse than what you're talking about. There's a reason that military justice is harsher than civilian Justice and it's for cases like these three. Trump threw that ENTIRELY out the window with this decision so no... it's not "Business as usual" and shouldn't be taken that way. This sets a very bad precedent... not that our short sighted commander in chief gives a shit. If you say so. I see nothing new here except he did what we've always done in a non-sleek way to some cannon fodder grunt because he's a bumbling idiot. I appreciate that Americans get to see how the rest of the world sees us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Of all the consequences to this goddamned forever war, I hope that the next soldier to tweak out at a gun range shoots these war criminal motherfuckers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 10 hours ago, 2user1cup said: If you say so. I see nothing new here except he did what we've always done in a non-sleek way to some cannon fodder grunt because he's a bumbling idiot. I appreciate that Americans get to see how the rest of the world sees us. Uh, we were prosecuting these people and the news isn't exactly exonorating them. Why is that not factoring into how you think "the world sees us"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 11 hours ago, 2user1cup said: I see nothing new here except he did what we've always done in a non-sleek way to some cannon fodder grunt because he's a bumbling idiot. I mean, skillz described what was different between this and your analogy of judges letting people off. So if you still don't see it then you're not reading. No one's telling you to believe America is usually this bastion of great justice with this being a fluke. They're saying that as bad as Americas has been, this drops us even lower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I just don't think anyone outside the US sees it as any different from the US being the US. I get what he's saying, I see it as semantics. 🤷🏼♀️ Americans love to hide behind formalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It's not semantics if it changes dynamics. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 6 hours ago, legend said: It's not semantics if it changes dynamics. If it rhymes it's true...ime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Anathema- said: If it rhymes it's true...ime. Want to know something terrible? Somehow I didn't even realize what I said rhymed until you mentioned it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, legend said: Want to know something terrible? Somehow I didn't even realize what I said rhymed until you mentioned it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jason said: It's probably because I originally wrote something a little longer and then cut it down. But still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CastlevaniaNut18 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I saw clips of that yesterday. Even for Fox, that's a new low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 The Navy is doing the right thing, even if Republicans never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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