Brian Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Nokt said: I guess my real question here is what has the Diablo team been doing for 5 years? According to the wikia (which I take with a grain of salt) Diablo has its own dev team that isn't apart of the other dev teams. They probably assist with other launches, but its been 5 years since Reaper of Souls. So we are 7+ years out since the last major release of Diablo. Jason Schreier wrote a great article about it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: As far as i know Path of Exile doesn't have an offline mode. That's what I was getting at. If Diablo IV is going to have an online "shared open world," I'm assuming it's going to be very similar to Path of Exile in structure. To be fair, PoE is way better than any F2P game has a right to be, and they've been pretty successful with their setup, despite their mtx shop being probably one of the most passive and unintrusive ones on the market. The question is, will Diablo IV do it well enough to charge $60+ for a game that will inevitably be compared to one that is free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckle85 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Hopefully this means there's a console version of the next Starcraft game coming at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Any Starcraft game playable on a controller would be a huge slap in the face to Starcraft fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckle85 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Moa said: Any Starcraft game playable on a controller would be a huge slap in the face to Starcraft fans. I've played Starcraft 2 on a controller. Mapped out a control scheme that works pretty well so far. Also wasn't Starcraft already released on consoles once before? The main challenge in porting it would be designing an intuitive UI, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, fuckle85 said: I've played Starcraft 2 on a controller. Mapped out a control scheme that works pretty well so far. Also wasn't Starcraft already released on consoles once before? The main challenge in porting it would be designing an intuitive UI, no? Allow me to amend my post, any Starcraft game designed to be playable on a controller would be a huge slap in the face to Starcraft fans. I'm sure its possible to have fun in the campaign with a controller scheme, but having a full console release would likely necessitate the kinds of gameplay concessions that would ruin the game for core players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckle85 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Moa said: Allow me to amend my post, any Starcraft game designed to be playable on a controller would be a huge slap in the face to Starcraft fans. I'm sure its possible to have fun in the campaign with a controller scheme, but having a full console release would likely necessitate the kinds of gameplay concessions that would ruin the game for core players. The same was said of Diablo 3 before it was ported, but it turned out well. If content was removed or scaled back, sure, but how would it ruin the gameplay if everything's intact but remixed to be more comfortable playing w/ a controller? A console port could still allow compatibility with keyboards too. I'm not seeing a downside to having the game playable on more platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 23 hours ago, XxEvil AshxX said: That's what I was getting at. If Diablo IV is going to have an online "shared open world," I'm assuming it's going to be very similar to Path of Exile in structure. To be fair, PoE is way better than any F2P game has a right to be, and they've been pretty successful with their setup, despite their mtx shop being probably one of the most passive and unintrusive ones on the market. The question is, will Diablo IV do it well enough to charge $60+ for a game that will inevitably be compared to one that is free? It will be. It’s Blizzard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 5:02 PM, Moa said: Any Starcraft game playable on a controller would be a huge slap in the face to Starcraft fans. Starcraft fan here, and I played mad hours of Starcraft 64. My buddy and I did plenty of 20 hour sessions as kids. Yes, we played on PC at that time as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bloodporne Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I haven't played, nor really looked at, a Diablo game since Diablo II back in the day and I do not like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 7:00 PM, XxEvil AshxX said: That's what I was getting at. If Diablo IV is going to have an online "shared open world," I'm assuming it's going to be very similar to Path of Exile in structure. To be fair, PoE is way better than any F2P game has a right to be, and they've been pretty successful with their setup, despite their mtx shop being probably one of the most passive and unintrusive ones on the market. The question is, will Diablo IV do it well enough to charge $60+ for a game that will inevitably be compared to one that is free? On 11/4/2019 at 6:05 PM, Mercury33 said: It will be. It’s Blizzard. Nevermind, it just looks like Blizzard is gonna take Path of Exile's cosmetic microtransactions and still make us pay for expansions. "Let's see... how do we make people believe Diablo IV is better than Path of Exile? I know! We'll do everything Path of Exile does, but make people pay for it! And when the expansions come out, we'll make them pay for those too! It's perfect!" I'm not saying PoE is perfect, but it's pretty good. And Blizzard doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned with garnishing some goodwill for themselves. They could easily make expansions free, in exchange for cosmetic mtx and ya know, paying for the game in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 15 hours ago, XxEvil AshxX said: Nevermind, it just looks like Blizzard is gonna take Path of Exile's cosmetic microtransactions and still make us pay for expansions. "Let's see... how do we make people believe Diablo IV is better than Path of Exile? I know! We'll do everything Path of Exile does, but make people pay for it! And when the expansions come out, we'll make them pay for those too! It's perfect!" I'm not saying PoE is perfect, but it's pretty good. And Blizzard doesn't seem to be the least bit concerned with garnishing some goodwill for themselves. They could easily make expansions free, in exchange for cosmetic mtx and ya know, paying for the game in the first place. Considering that Diablo is the least successful series that blizzard currently has (from a profit point of view) it would make sense that they would introduce microtransactions and well as still paying for expansions. Not saying its right, but in order for Diablo to be a relevant series to Blizzard they need to bring in more cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 If the micro transactions are purely cosmetic then who cares. I also have zero problem paying for expansions. Imo games have stayed a flatline price for 15 years and have only gone up $10 over the course of like 30 years. If the quality of the product is good, I have no problem paying for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 23 hours ago, Nokt said: Considering that Diablo is the least successful series that blizzard currently has (from a profit point of view) it would make sense that they would introduce microtransactions and well as still paying for expansions. Not saying its right, but in order for Diablo to be a relevant series to Blizzard they need to bring in more cash. do you have a link showing how the Diablo series is the least profitable series for Blizzard? Diablo 3 outsold Starcraft 1&2 including every expansion combined. Quote Top selling Blizzard games 1. Overwatch (35 million*) 2. Diablo III (30 million) 3. Diablo II (17 million) Diablo II: Lord of Destruction expansion pack (17.5 million) 4. World of Warcraft (12 million subscribers peak) 5. StarCraft (11 million) 6. Starcraft II (6 million) ._Heart of the Swarm (1.1 million) Legacy of the Void (1 million) 7. Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (3 million) 8. Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne [expansion pack] (3 million) 9. Diablo (2.5 million) 10. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness (2 million) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Remarkableriots said: do you have a link showing how the Diablo series is the least profitable series for Blizzard? Diablo 3 outsold Starcraft 1&2 including every expansion combined. It was more conjecture than anything. However, game sales are just the tip of the iceberg. Especially when competing with micro-transactions and concurrent subs. I also don't count Starcraft as current because its been rather quiet in recent years. I wouldn't even count Diablo as current if Immortal and IV hadn't been announced. Overwatch: base game sales + micro-transactions WoW: base game sales + monthly subs + micro-transactions + expansions + WoW classic subs now too Diablo: base game sales + a single expansion EDIT: apparently Diablo 3 has microtransactions, just not in EU/US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/10/2019 at 4:34 AM, Mercury33 said: If the micro transactions are purely cosmetic then who cares. I also have zero problem paying for expansions. Imo games have stayed a flatline price for 15 years and have only gone up $10 over the course of like 30 years. If the quality of the product is good, I have no problem paying for it. I agree. Micro transactions are bad if they're locking content behind them. Cosmetics, I couldn't care less about. Historically, Diablo expansions have been pretty well worth their price. There's been a ton of content and new character classes. If I enjoy the game, I don't have any problem paying more money for more game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Haven't they been releasing Free Diablo 3 updates pretty much since release. I stopped playing awhile ago, but everytime I get on there's new stuff to do. They released 1 or 2 paid expansions for it, but they've also been updating it with the Seasons or whatever which I think each introduce new things. If they need to implement MX Cosmetics to keep supporting these games, that's okay by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: do you have a link showing how the Diablo series is the least profitable series for Blizzard? Diablo 3 outsold Starcraft 1&2 including every expansion combined. 3. Diablo II (17 million) Diablo II: Lord of Destruction expansion pack (17.5 million) how does this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, elbobo said: 3. Diablo II (17 million) Diablo II: Lord of Destruction expansion pack (17.5 million) how does this work? They sold expansion packs with Diablo 2 included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Diablo III is one of the few games that I've maxed every class on. Had a blast with this. I look forward to playing this in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 16 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: They sold expansion packs with Diablo 2 included? I actually only bought LOD, I bummed a code from a friend for base D2, then input my LOD code. Worked for me, perhaps .5 million people did the same too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Diablo IV Quarterly Update - February 2020 Quote Table of Contents Introduction to Quarterly Updates Luis Barriga, Game Director UI Design, Controller Support, and Co-Op Angela Del Priore, Lead UI Designer Monster Family & Design Highlight: Cannibal Tribes Candace Thomas, Senior Encounter Designer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Diablo IV Quarterly Update - June 2020 Quote Table of Contents Introduction Team Playtest A Word About Blockout Storytelling Open World Multiplayer Items and Progression Other Thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 11/4/2019 at 6:39 PM, fuckle85 said: The same was said of Diablo 3 before it was ported, but it turned out well. If content was removed or scaled back, sure, but how would it ruin the gameplay if everything's intact but remixed to be more comfortable playing w/ a controller? A console port could still allow compatibility with keyboards too. I'm not seeing a downside to having the game playable on more platforms. Comparing starcraft to Diablo is a bit ridiculous. You aren’t controlling hundreds of ynits in diablo. They aren’t even close to the same typeof games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 11/11/2019 at 8:15 AM, Remarkableriots said: do you have a link showing how the Diablo series is the least profitable series for Blizzard? Diablo 3 outsold Starcraft 1&2 including every expansion combined. Sales does not equal profitability. i just realized how old these posts are. I can’t wait for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 They are going to try and push the open-world hub and multiplayer aspects of D4...and just like D3, 99% of players are going to play solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 4:10 PM, CitizenVectron said: They are going to try and push the open-world hub and multiplayer aspects of D4...and just like D3, 99% of players are going to play solo. I always play through the story once solo. After that I’ll seek out people to run through the game with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Loved everything about 3, visually, and played for dozens of hours but couldn't get into the gameplay at all. I want to like a diablo game, so I'll probably try this, but on a streaming service first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALIEN-gunner Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Diablo 3 had co-op? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 With Minecraft Dungeons it has gotten back into the Diablo 3. Best the story but didn't do much after that. Minecraft Dungeons has actually got one of my friends who has never played a Diablo type game really into it. Think he's already out 50+ hours into Minecraft Dungeons and looking forward to the expansion. Figure that maybe we can get into something more complex now that's he's dipped his toes in the genre. I saw that POE is on Xbox. Anyone play POE on console and how does it compare to Diablo 3? Should I stick with Diablo 3 or give POE a shot since it's free to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, The def star said: Should I stick with Diablo 3 or give POE a shot since it's free to play? Play POE right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Play POE right now! Thinking about it Probably play a little bit before I tell my buddies to get into it. Just to make sure it isn't too much for them. I feel Diablo 3 might be easier to get into but if POE is just better overall might not be bad to start them off with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I think you’ll all have fun figuring it out together. The sphere grid isn’t as nearly as intimidating as people think it sounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: I think you’ll all have fun figuring it out together. The sphere grid isn’t as nearly as intimidating as people think it sounds What I hated about POE was that I was working through a map and returned to town to unload collected items. When I returned the map had reset in just a few minutes and I had to clear the map again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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