SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 The owner of McKamey Manor said he's a "straight-laced conservative guy" who runs "this crazy haunted house that people think is this torture factory ... All of these things that it’s not." Quote A haunted house that requires participants to get a doctor's note and sign a 40-page waiver before they enter is facing some pushback online with more than 31,000 people [now over 57,000] signing a petition calling for it to be shut down. ... They also need to show proof of medical insurance, pass a drug test and sign a "detailed 40 page waiver." The haunt can last 10 or more hours. ... McKamey told WFLA that before the tour begins people have to watch a two-hour video that shows past participants attempting to get through the entire haunted house. The Tennessee attraction is so scary, no one has ever completed it, he said. Quote Towery claims participants have been waterboarded, "forced to eat things" and have had duct tape wrapped around their heads. The petition calls for both locations of the haunted house — in Summertown, Tennessee and Huntsville, Alabama — closed. "It's literally just a kidnapping & torture house. Some people have had to seek professional psychiatric help and medical care for extensive injuries. I propose that all locations where this is happening be shut down immediately," he wrote. Quote McKamey said that over the years, people have insisted things happened to them inside the haunted house that never actually took place. He films each tour and shows the participant the footage if they need to see it. The petition: Quote he uses needles to inject people with drugs, forces them to ingest pills/questionable items to force hallucinations also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 A reddit post on it a year ago: And a story from Nashville Scene: Quote Some visitors might have to swim through a 200-yard muddy trench that’s home to a few caimans, including a 2-and-a-half-foot male named Ralphie. “He’s a biter,” McKamey warns. Others might take a dip in a giant tank full of moray eels that “won’t bite you, but they will wrap around your face.” You may be exposed to mind-altering drugs or weapons like whips, paintball guns and Tasers. McKamey also apparently has a vast assortment of bugs, including cockroaches, bees, crickets and mosquitos, all waiting to eat and/or be eaten. But before a contestant makes it through McKamey Manor’s door, he or she must go through the tedious process of reading aloud and signing a 20-plus-page legal waiver that lists more than 100 disgusting, dangerous and disturbing scenarios they may face. Quote In the hours it takes to make it through the waiver, he agrees to exposure to extreme temperatures (No. 73), having plastic wrap tightly held over his face (No. 74), and having his hands and feet zip-tied (No. 75). The only thing VanOver won’t stand for — everyone gets to pick two “freebies” — is tooth-pulling and needles. One of my coworkers heard of this before we ran a story on it this morning, but this is the first time I've ever heard of this manor. wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 So are people just making up shit to excuse their fear if he has video footage of everything going on? Ok, everything after the Reddit story ads a bit now detail. That seems a bit extreme. I don't think I'd have a problem with much of it as long as there were some safe word to end the experience, if that's what we're calling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: So are people just making up shit to excuse their fear if he has video footage of everything going on? Ok, everything after the Reddit story ads a bit now detail. That seems a bit extreme. I don't think I'd have a problem with much of it as long as there were some safe word to end the experience, if that's what we're calling it. Yeah, the original article is more about the petition to end it and the accusations, so I did some more reading to add more context to the whole thing. Guy seems like a sadist, and not in the kinky sexual kind; he just really seems to want to torture people and maybe found a legal way to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 So they force you to watch Fox News for 10 hours? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 If you are looking for that type of fun, understand what is going on, and sign on the dotted line, no problem, enjoy yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 52 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: So they force you to watch Fox News for 10 hours? Worse: OANN. With live commentary by Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I just listened to the Stuff You Should Know podcast that mentioned this house. I find it strange you dont even pay money for the experience. Sounds like some dark web shit to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Commodore D said: If you are looking for that type of fun, understand what is going on, and sign on the dotted line, no problem, enjoy yourself. This is where I stand on it. I mean, it's not like this is new. The Manor has been running in some form or another for years. It's pretty infamous and what goes on there is pretty well known. If you go there, sit through the videos, sit through the hours long warning and waiver sessions, and still move forward with it...well you know what you're getting into at that point. You're asking for it. Nobody goes there thinking it's just a chill haunted house and gets surprised. Edit: Though I'm not sure why they call it a "haunted house". It's more akin to an extreme endurance challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 They're going to kill someone some day and those waivers won't be worth the paper they're written on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They're going to kill someone some day and those waivers won't be worth the paper they're written on Yuuuuuuuuuuuup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Netflix has the documentary on haunted houses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 minute ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Netflix has the documentary on haunted houses I appreciate that; I want to check it out now. 1 hour ago, DarkStar189 said: I just listened to the Stuff You Should Know podcast that mentioned this house. I find it strange you dont even pay money for the experience. Sounds like some dark web shit to me. Maybe by doing it that way, it's not technically a "business" and he can get away with it, but that's just me throwing something out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 https://youtu.be/vl6CGlBVpCA From the dude’s YouTube page. Maybe it’s missing some of the really bad stuff, but it doesn’t seem nearly as awful as I would have thought from the stuff written about it. Either way, I hate being scared so I don’t even like doing those corn mazes for children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They're going to kill someone some day and those waivers won't be worth the paper they're written on Yep. Waivers of liability aren't as strong as people think. You can't sign away certain rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, DarkStar189 said: I just listened to the Stuff You Should Know podcast that mentioned this house. I find it strange you dont even pay money for the experience. Sounds like some dark web shit to me. Sounds like a Blumhouse movie coming out next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 I feel like the fact the thing can go on for as longneck as he wants and he admitted in one of the interviews he doesn’t see anyone ever completing it shows that’s it’s some kind of hustle. I also think I read somewhere that people think he runs a private sort of gambling group who watches live-streams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, finaljedi said: I also think I read somewhere that people think he runs a private sort of gambling group who watches live-streams. THIS actually makes a lot of sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Why did autocorrect make long into longneck? Stupid iPhone, anyway yeah, that place has to cost money to run and he isn't taking any the normal way, so he has to have an alternate revenue stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 There being a 20k prize if you “make it through” makes me veer a bit more towards shut it down. It makes it too easy to get vulnerable people into his torture chamber. I also am not surprised nobody has made it through since it really just seems to end when he says it does so he can keep going or you just wait until he gets bored torturing you. And wtf at the tooth pulling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, stepee said: There being a 20k prize if you “make it through” makes me veer a bit more towards shut it down. It makes it too easy to get vulnerable people into his torture chamber. I also am not surprised nobody has made it through since it really just seems to end when he says it does so he can keep going or you just wait until he gets bored torturing you. And wtf at the tooth pulling? I think the bulk of that waiver is just part of the gimmick. By making people think they're giving this guy permission to do all these things he mentally manipulates them from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, ThreePi said: I think the bulk of that waiver is just part of the gimmick. By making people think they're giving this guy permission to do all these things he mentally manipulates them from the start. This seems correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 hours ago, finaljedi said: Why did autocorrect make long into longneck? Stupid iPhone, anyway yeah, that place has to cost money to run and he isn't taking any the normal way, so he has to have an alternate revenue stream. Talking about the Land Before Time recently huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I showed my wife the Dark Tourist episode about this last night. At first, she said she could do this herself easily. Then, we got to the part where they put cockroaches in one of the person's mouth and she was like "turn that shit off" lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 hours ago, stepee said: And wtf at the tooth pulling? This is what makes me think it’s sensationalized. Is there actually someone out there that agreed at the beginning teeth pulling is okay and is now walking around missing teeth? Can you even legally agree to be maimed like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Getting tortured isn't exactly scary in the horror sense of the word. That's not a haunted house; that's a real life legal torture house from Hostel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 3 hours ago, SilentWorld said: This is what makes me think it’s sensationalized. Is there actually someone out there that agreed at the beginning teeth pulling is okay and is now walking around missing teeth? Can you even legally agree to be maimed like that? Sounds more to me like he wants to give the illusion of choice by saying they get "freebies" and then including things everyone would take exception to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Anathema- said: Sounds more to me like he wants to give the illusion of choice by saying they get "freebies" and then including things everyone would take exception to. Oh yeah good point that’s plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 10:43 AM, sblfilms said: https://youtu.be/vl6CGlBVpCA From the dude’s YouTube page. Maybe it’s missing some of the really bad stuff, but it doesn’t seem nearly as awful as I would have thought from the stuff written about it. Either way, I hate being scared so I don’t even like doing those corn mazes for children. I don’t think there’s any maybe here. Of course he wouldn’t show the more controversial content on YouTube. I’m skeptical about stuff like teeth pulling too, but all the other experiences I’ve read about sound just awful. The police were called shortly after they moved to Tennessee because wintnees saw a screaming woman being dragged out of her car. Stuff like that would be disturbing to see on video, consensual or not. And I dunno, maybe I’m too sensitive to other people’s emotions, but that video was VERY hard for me to watch. I couldn’t finish. It’s one thing to see people screaming because they’re getting scared at a haunted house. But this was screams of genuine terror - people actually screaming for their lives. I literally had to a take a long shower afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Brick said: Getting tortured isn't exactly scary in the horror sense of the word. That's not a haunted house; that's a real life legal torture house from Hostel. The haunt community hates him because of this. Haunts are about imagination, creativity, and artistry. This is one of that mHe’s not doing it for the love of Halloween and providing safe scares. McKamey literally gets off on seeing people get tortured, and he found a way to do it legally. He gleefully films every tour. He spends hours editing the footage. I’ve been reading a lot about him over the last 24 hours and it becomes more and more clear that he’s a sick fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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