Jason Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 She’s set to resign by the end of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Surprised we weren't discussing this earlier. The far-right types have been overjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 So? Why should she resign when a President with over 30 sexual assault allegations remains in office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, MarSolo said: So? Why should she resign when a President with over 30 sexual assault allegations remains in office? Wat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoidHater Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 45 minutes ago, Jose said: Wat Hypocrisy of far-right types. Nothing new really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Quote Sources with knowledge of Hill’s resignation said her decision to step down was prompted, in part, by hopes of stemming the flow of embarrassing and defamatory reports that have popped up in multiple outlets, starting with conservative site RedState.org last week. Hopes that will surely be crushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Hopes that will surely be crushed. All this will achieve is emboldening them to do this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I really don't get why her sex life is an issue, as long as she does her damn job. She had a couple of lovers, in what seems was an open marriage. BFD? I understand why the evangelicals are screaming, they are a bunch of hypocrites, but and news organisation with a pinch of integrity should be refusing to report this kinda shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 She broke house rules, but who cares? Let them slap her on the wrist. Everything was consensual right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Jose said: Wat Trump has multiple sexual assault allegations against him and he the right is defending him. This woman is resigning over a consensual relationship with a female staffer. She also being attacked over an a different consenual relationship with a male staffer that she's refuting. Even if both are true, resigning is silly if no laws are being broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It would be great if she would sue both sites and take them down Gawker style. Where are the leftist billionaires willing to bankroll this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Also it's hard to ever tell if there is a situation where there is consent between someone and their subordinate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: It would be great if she would sue both sites and take them down Gawker style. Where are the leftist billionaires willing to bankroll this? Narnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Narnia Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Also it's hard to ever tell if there is a situation where there is consent between someone and their subordinate. Agreed, but I don’t think we should always assume in every circumstance that it was not consensual. Details matter in all of these situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Also it's hard to ever tell if there is a situation where there is consent between someone and their subordinate. Considering they were in a relationship before she became a staffer, im guessing yes. And if both parties are willing and want it, then thats consent. Harvey Weinstein=Rapist. Katie Hill=Woman who had a little fun in the bedroom and was punished for it by the right wing. The idea that their can't be consent with a subordinate is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Massdriver said: She broke house rules, but who cares? Let them slap her on the wrist. Everything was consensual right? Yeah, it was consensual, and the only people making a big deal of it is the right wing media. They had a sexual relationship, both enjoyed it, good for them. And it started before she was a staffer. So yes, who the hell cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: Considering they were in a relationship before she became a staffer, im guessing yes. And if both parties are willing and want it, then thats consent. Harvey Weinstein=Rapist. Katie Hill=Woman who had a little fun in the bedroom and was punished for it by the right wing. The idea that their can't be consent with a subordinate is ridiculous. I mean Louis CK had his career destroyed for asking permission (and receiving it) to masturbate in front of fellow less famous comedians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jose said: I mean Louis CK had his career destroyed for asking permission (and receiving it) to masturbate in front of fellow less famous comedians. Again, this is different, they were in a relationship before she became a staffer. Louis CK used his power over 'subordinate' actresses to get them to agree. Everything i've read about this says otherwise. They were lovers who then began working together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I don’t see why she would resign unless she is deeply embarrassed/ashamed or if there’s more to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 So they started a relationship, then this other person became a staffer. Is that right? Lol I guess outright corruption is better I suppose. Nothing as bad as what the right wing media did though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: It would be great if she would sue both sites and take them down Gawker style. Where are the leftist billionaires willing to bankroll this? everything about this post is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, johnny said: I don’t see why she would resign unless she is deeply embarrassed/ashamed or if there’s more to this. A couple of right wing media outlets got their hands and then published some nonconsensual porn of hers. I'm betting it has more to do with that than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Jose said: I mean Louis CK had his career destroyed for asking permission (and receiving it) to masturbate in front of fellow less famous comedians. Perhaps I’m mistaken, but I thought that during the CK stuff that I read he sometimes would randomly whip it out without asking, and sometimes he would indeed ask first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I was also under the impression that Sarah Silverman was the one woman who didn't care, but others did, right? Maybe I don't remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: I was also under the impression that Sarah Silverman was the one woman who didn't care, but others did, right? Maybe I don't remember correctly. I don’t know if she was the only one who didn’t care, however, I remember her saying something to the extent of sometimes she said sure, go ahead, and other times she said ew, no, let’s just go get pizza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: I was also under the impression that Sarah Silverman was the one woman who didn't care, but others did, right? Maybe I don't remember correctly. I mean they said yes, but I underetand the point that he abused his power. Still, if he did then how didn't Hill? I thought consent was not possible in positions of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 There’s also the notion that the women that talked about what CK did got blacklisted / pressured by his people, had to put up with death threats once his behavior got out there, there’s at least one account of him masturbating over the phone with someone he called where he didn’t ask for permission, etc. Saying that his career was destroyed because he asked for and got permission to do what he did is a pretty big fudging of the context and behaviors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jose said: I mean they said yes, but I underetand the point that he abused his power. Still, if he did then how didn't Hill? I thought consent was not possible in positions of power. I haven't even read anything about this; I was just talking about Louis CK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jose said: I mean they said yes, but I underetand the point that he abused his power. Still, if he did then how didn't Hill? I thought consent was not possible in positions of power. Well, consent can't really happen when there's an imbalance of power, but the more I read, in this case the other person involved was involved with Hill and her abusive now ex husband before she came to Congress. Without knowing much more about their relationship, this would seem to be ok. But eyes on the prize: the person who released/is releasing this revenge porn (probably the ex) and the conservative media who circulated it, are the far bigger issue here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: There’s also the notion that the women that talked about what CK did got blacklisted / pressured by his people, had to put up with death threats once his behavior got out there, there’s at least one account of him masturbating over the phone with someone he called where he didn’t ask for permission, etc. Saying that his career was destroyed because he asked for and got permission to do what he did is a pretty big fudging of the context and behaviors. I'm not at all saying what he did was ok. Hope I am not coming off like that. But I do think everyone is weirdly ok with what Hill has done. Though if what apoc is saying is true, that certainly changes things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Getting back to Katie Hill. It sounds like it may have been her husband, who she is in the middle of a divorce with, that released the nude photos to the press. It sounds like she's looking to sue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Former Congressman Steve Knight announced that he will be running to retake the 25th California Congressional seat after Congresswoman Katie Hill resigned Sunday. I look forward to finding out that Knight was somehow involved with releasing these pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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