Guest Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 The House had no good reason to rush the process to bring articles to a vote, there is plenty of reason to believe they would have won in court on most of these issues where people were ignoring subpoenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The House had no good reason to rush the process to bring articles to a vote, there is plenty of reason to believe they would have won in court on most of these issues where people were ignoring subpoenas. How so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: How so Because the district courts had already ruled that McGhan had to and the legal notion being used to avoid testimony in the McGhan case was identical to these other cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 The articles they passed has enough to legitimize removal. The only thing actually being discussed is how obviously shameless the gop will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Because the district courts had already ruled that McGhan had to and the legal notion being used to avoid testimony in the McGhan case was identical to these other cases. For some reason I read your post I quoted as "the White House" so that explains the confusion. Anyway, Pelosi didn't want to do this so that's why they're basically rushing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anathema- said: The articles they passed has enough to legitimize removal. The only thing actually being discussed is how obviously shameless the gop will be. I thought your position was that Pelosi was being strategic with the process, or am I misremembering? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, sblfilms said: I thought your position was that Pelosi was being strategic with the process, or am I misremembering? It would appear she is, in the sense that she's trying to be aggressively non-partisan. She hasn't done anything so far that seems like the obvious wrong call. She has a weak hand and has still changed narratives and won concessions. Be that as it may, the only place that "gee golly that's something I would consider if only the house put it in the articles" gains purchase is in the minds of people who have already acquitted trump. It's bad faith on its face and only gets worse as you unravel the details. Saying that you'll only consider the evidence of an investigation that was materially obstructed by the defendant when you have the power to demand more evidence is nothing more than an excuse, a vain hope in dodging pressure to make a hard choice. She wants us all to pretend the choice to acquit is easy but it's based on nonsense that falls apart in a light breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Please don't let this be another "We have his tax returns!" level kind of fuck up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, Jason said: follow on Twitter = “monitoring new” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 16, 2020 Author Share Posted January 16, 2020 Dumb dumb dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 That's REALLY goddamned stupid. Let the guy who literally wants to give the Constitution a blow job actually perform a pretty damned important Constitutional duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, SaysWho? said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 If anyone is shocked that Collins is a huge POS, I have some magic beans for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: If anyone is shocked that Collins is a huge POS, I have some magic beans for sale. I would like to bundle a nice shiny new bridge with those beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Man, it's almost as if the part of the government that enforces the law on the Executive branch shouldn't actually be part of the Executive branch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Need a fourth branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: Man, it's almost as if the part of the government that enforces the law on the Executive branch shouldn't actually be part of the Executive branch. This takes away another Republican talking point that I've seen regarding this impeachment... "Unlike the other impeachment cases, there was no underlying crime in this case." Well... now you have one. I would assume the same conclusion would be reached regarding the Puerto Rico Aid funds as well... interesting that those funds were released recently as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 12 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: That's REALLY goddamned stupid. Let the guy who literally wants to give the Constitution a blow job actually perform a pretty damned important Constitutional duty. I'm gonna go out on a limb and presume that Pelosi and the Dem leadership know something about Amash that the public doesn't so... fuck him. My words not theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Man, it's almost as if the part of the government that enforces the law on the Executive branch shouldn't actually be part of the Executive branch. https://politics.theonion.com/giuliani-insists-breaking-the-law-not-a-crime-1827979622 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Man, it's almost as if the part of the government that enforces the law on the Executive branch shouldn't actually be part of the Executive branch. This won't affect or change anything, will it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, marioandsonic said: This won't affect or change anything, will it? Of course not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: https://politics.theonion.com/giuliani-insists-breaking-the-law-not-a-crime-1827979622 Poor The Onion, they still try to parody the news, but so often now they are just stating facts with their headlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Poor The Onion, they still try to parody the news, but so often now they are just stating facts with their headlines. It's GOTTA be tough to be a satirist these days. We are actually living the HBO series VEEP right now except somehow worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I would like to bundle a nice shiny new bridge with those beans. But the beans grow into a bridge that carries you to a place with Republicans who put country before party and have morals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: Pandering to the Trump base... if she loses her election she at least gets a job at Fox news. Or somewhere worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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