Reputator Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I feel like this marks the end of a 3 year+ saga. This is the climax, and beyond this, nothing else is going to be done against him. So at this point I feel like just tuning out of politics until it's time for me to vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, finaljedi said: Tulsi voted present, so brave Jeff flake would be proud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Reputator said: I feel like this marks the end of a 3 year+ saga. This is the climax, and beyond this, nothing else is going to be done against him. So at this point I feel like just tuning out of politics until it's time for me to vote. Until he gets reelected in 2020, then declares a national emergency to keep himself president until he dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Fucking finally. Now please actually get him removed from office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckle85 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Regardless of how left of center you are, and I say this as a pacifist for the most part (mainly since i can't fight well in person), this entire honkfuck administration should be provoking the "decapitate the one percent in the revolution" leftist energy in anyone with a pulse. Long time coming. Fuck outta here already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Turn on the sound: 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 So now Pelosi is considering not handing over the impeachment to the Senate unless they agree to play fair, and McConnell's response is to consider just not recognizing the House's impeachment at all? It's hard to even predict what crazy decisions SCOTUS is going to have to make by the end of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Huh, who knew the collapse of the US would happen before the years end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, chakoo said: Huh, who knew the collapse of the US would happen before the years end. If it's what you say, I love it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, chakoo said: Huh, who knew the collapse of the US would happen before the years end. what a time to be alive! Spoiler for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I don't know how the process works but how does this actually affect his political career going forward? From what I understand, the chance of actual removals are probably nonexistent so...what are the repercussions here? Anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: I don't know how the process works but how does this actually affect his political career going forward? From what I understand, the chance of actual removals are probably nonexistent so...what are the repercussions here? Anything? He isn’t getting removed, but there simply isn’t enough data one way or the other to say what the political effects of the impeachment. Anybody who says different is just making things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: I don't know how the process works but how does this actually affect his political career going forward? From what I understand, the chance of actual removals are probably nonexistent so...what are the repercussions here? Anything? Bad boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: I don't know how the process works but how does this actually affect his political career going forward? From what I understand, the chance of actual removals are probably nonexistent so...what are the repercussions here? Anything? It's best not to expect anything more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Impeached presidents can run for re-election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Uaarkson said: Impeached presidents can run for re-election? Some in the GOP are even arguing that they can run for a third term because of the "coup" attempt made against them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Some in the GOP are even arguing that they can run for a third term because of the "coup" attempt made against them! Is this an actual thing, because it sounds like another Huckabee joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, sblfilms said: Is this an actual thing, because it sounds like another Huckabee joke. No, there are a few who have argued that somehow trying to remove a president gives them another term. I've only heard it said from a few crazies, fortunately. But with the way Trump jokes about it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, CitizenVectron said: No, there are a few who have argued that somehow trying to remove a president gives them another term. I've only heard it said from a few crazies, fortunately. But with the way Trump jokes about it... Like who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Like who? If I have time later I will look back, it was in my twitter feed a week or two ago. I just remember it was batshit reasoning. I think it was someone being interviewed on a Fox show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: If I have time later I will look back, it was in my twitter feed a week or two ago. I just remember it was batshit reasoning. I think it was someone being interviewed on a Fox show. I share this same memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Like who? I googled it and found this, which I also remember reading. It's not a GOP person in this case, just a nutjob "constitutional expert." https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/28/should-trump-get-third-term-impeached-acquitted-column/2480302001/ Quote The ill-considered impeachment efforts against President Donald Trump have seriously interfered with his first term as president. Thus, argues constitutional scholar William Mattox in The Wall Street Journal, if acquitted, Trump should be eligible for a third term, notwithstanding the two-term limit in the 22nd Amendment. Mattox deploys a sports analogy: “In the National Football League, teams can challenge a call on the field — but there’s a risk. If instant replay doesn’t merit overturning the call, the challenging team loses one of its three timeouts. That discourages frivolous challenges and keeps the game flowing, while also providing a way to reverse egregious errors.” The argument is that since impeachment has taken up his time, he should be given more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbiggsly Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I like it. We can have a Trump vs Bill Clinton election in 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I googled it and found this, which I also remember reading. It's not a GOP person in this case, just a nutjob "constitutional expert." https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/28/should-trump-get-third-term-impeached-acquitted-column/2480302001/ The argument is that since impeachment has taken up his time, he should be given more time. Imagine being a Constitutional scholar and citing a 20-year old rule in the NFL as basis for how presidential terms should be understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I googled it and found this, which I also remember reading. It's not a GOP person in this case, just a nutjob "constitutional expert." https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/28/should-trump-get-third-term-impeached-acquitted-column/2480302001/ The argument is that since impeachment has taken up his time, he should be given more time. That guy says he should be eligible, not that he is, and explicitly says you would need to amend the constitution to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, sblfilms said: He isn’t getting removed, but there simply isn’t enough data one way or the other to say what the political effects of the impeachment. Anybody who says different is just making things up. His voter base will simply see this as a badge of honor in their lowest-common-denominator blind American contrarianism and probably vote even stronger for the badass who's too real for the libtard system to handle, that's about all I expect to come from this personally. But like I said, I don't really know the process so I was curious what people here thought. Makes sense seeing how few times it actually has occurred but great twist in the never-ending soap opera script that is American politics in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: His voter base will simply see this as a badge of honor in their lowest-common-denominator blind American contrarianism and probably vote even stronger for the badass who's too real for the libtard system to handle, that's about all I expect to come from this personally. But like I said, I don't really know the process so I was curious what people here thought. Makes sense seeing how few times it actually has occurred but great twist in the never-ending soap opera script that is American politics in general. I think the impeachment is likely pleasing for different reasons to both those who support and oppose the president. What is less certain is the people who have no strong opinion about him. That’s what makes it difficult to predict the outcome with such a small data set on impeachment effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I think impeachment actually helped Clinton because it was about sex, and many people thought "heh, classic slick Willy." With Trump, a majority of "independent" see him as corrupt, so I don't think impeachment will help him since it plays to an existing fault (that isn't funny). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I read a compelling argument that the narcissist authoritan needs to have his "wound" "healed" by impeachment going down in the Senate. There will be huge pressure from trump to get impeachment into the Senate. He's going to go fucking nuts demanding McConnell take the articles and acquit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, 69los said: His first day in the party and he’s already going Dear Leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Sister just saw a joke on reddit that is pretty awesome why won’t republicans help impeach Trump? they believe in carrying a baby to full term 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, silentbob said: Sister just saw a joke on reddit that is pretty awesome why won’t republicans help impeach Trump? they believe in carrying a baby to full term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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