Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Turns out the police were called BECAUSE Jacob Blake was there, and the officers on scene knew about his outstanding warrant for violent crimes which is why they attempted to arrest him. The “he was just there to help!” story is total nonsense. Benjamin Crump is a lying grifter too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Turns out the police were called BECAUSE Jacob Blake was there, and the officers on scene knew about his outstanding warrant for violent crimes which is why they attempted to arrest him. The “he was just there to help!” story is total nonsense. Benjamin Crump is a lying grifter too This definitely changes some of the calculus...but it doesn't justify firing handfuls of rounds into his back while he's getting in his vehicle (with kids inside!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: This definitely changes some of the calculus...but it doesn't justify firing handfuls of rounds into his back while he's getting in his vehicle (with kids inside!). I agree, these are somewhat separate issues IMO. But I think the fact that 1.) Blake was the subject of the 911 call 2.) The officers knew he was wanted for violent crimes 3.) Blake fought off three officers when they attempted to arrest him 4.) Blake then attempted to either flee or get a weapon from his vehicle all inform the state of mind of the officers at the moment of the shooting. I think you’d have a very difficult time getting a conviction. I don’t think the man should have been shot anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Too real, bruh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 The bar by which officers in the US can kill people is so low...the only justification they need is "I felt that there was a possibility that maybe they were going to try and find or get a weapon somewhere." Judge: Good reason! *slams gavel* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Trump deploying National Guard and federal officers to Kenosha, Wisconsin to quell protests Governor Jacob Blake has approved it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The bar by which officers in the US can kill people is so low...the only justification they need is "I felt that there was a possibility that maybe they were going to try and find or get a weapon somewhere." Judge: Good reason! *slams gavel* It’s simpler, they only have to have a fear of their safety that is reasonable. That being said, it is unreasonable in this scenario to believe a known violent criminal who just fought off multiple officers to avoid arrest who is now reaching into his car is about to produce a weapon, in America? Not really. But I don’t know why police shouldn’t be required to make an effort to get to a defensible position as opposed to just being able to unload on a guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALIEN-gunner Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 After seeing the video, the protesters tried to take the guy down and got shot from self defense. Running up on a guy with a gun is incredibly stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, sblfilms said: That being said, it is unreasonable in this scenario to believe a known violent criminal who just fought off multiple officers to avoid arrest who is now reaching into his car is about to produce a weapon, in America? Not really. But I don’t know why police shouldn’t be required to make an effort to get to a defensible position as opposed to just being able to unload on a guy. Or to, you know, actually see the weapon first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, ALIEN-gunner said: After seeing the video, the protesters tried to take the guy down and got shot from self defense. Running up on a guy with a gun is incredibly stupid. can someone delete this account please 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 31 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s simpler, they only have to have a fear of their safety that is reasonable. That being said, it is unreasonable in this scenario to believe a known violent criminal who just fought off multiple officers to avoid arrest who is now reaching into his car is about to produce a weapon, in America? Not really. But I don’t know why police shouldn’t be required to make an effort to get to a defensible position as opposed to just being able to unload on a guy. There are more guns in America than there are humans and something like 30% of adults own guns. Might as well plug everyone just to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Guy drives across Statelines with a gun to confront people he disagrees with, SELF DEFENSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, PaladinSolo said: Guy drives across Statelines with a gun to confront people he disagrees with, SELF DEFENSE. This is what a good guy with a gun looks like to far too many Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: There are more guns in America than there are humans and something like 30% of adults own guns. Might as well plug everyone just to be safe. Cops are already on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, sblfilms said: Cops are already on it Yuuuuuuuuup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Guy drives across Statelines with a gun to confront people he disagrees with, SELF DEFENSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 The Milwaukee Bucks aren't playing their playoff game today to protest Jacob Blake being shot. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29747523/bucks-not-taking-court-game-5-vs-magic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: The Milwaukee Bucks aren't playing their playoff game today to protest Jacob Blake being shot. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29747523/bucks-not-taking-court-game-5-vs-magic Unless they take an L, this is kinda weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Unless they take an L, this is kinda weird. Well, they can afford it up 3-1 against the Tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Amazatron said: Well, they can afford it up 3-1 against the Tragic. TBH they can afford a couple and still be 15 point favorites in game 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Unless they take an L, this is kinda weird. These were my initial thoughts as well. Of all the pro sports orgs, the NBA has been the most well-intentioned towards the recent civil discourse. But, I think if all other NBA teams follow suit then it might be more meaningful. Rumors are swirling about your guys sitting their game out today, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: TBH they can afford a couple and still be 15 point favorites in game 7 Magic reportedly not accepting a forfeit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Bucks players are in locker room attempting to reach the attorney general of Wisconsin, Josh Kaul, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Magic players are leaving the arena soon -- not accepting the Bucks‘ forfeit.— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 26, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I'm probably gonna hate the answer to his question, but if he's 17 years old, how did he have a gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I'm probably gonna hate the answer to his question, but if he's 17 years old, how did he have a gun? Laws vary by state, but you do realize minors hunt with guns all the time? My parents bought me my first gun(that was exclusively mine) when I was 15. I think the general rule is you can't buy a long rifle until the age of 18. Again, it varies by state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Sounds like the other NBA games for today are being boycotted as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Laws vary by state, but you do realize minors hunt with guns all the time? My parents bought me my first gun(that was exclusively mine) when I was 15. I think the general rule is you can't buy a long rifle until the age of 18. Again, it varies by state. I know minors hunt. I guess I just assumed the rules / laws were different with a minor brandishing a gun in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, osxmatt said: I know minors hunt. I guess I just assumed the rules / laws were different with a minor brandishing a gun in public. Wisconsin has open carry. Not sure if there's an age restriction on that, but it's not like police were checking IDs on these guys. But, yeah, it's not a crazy notion that a minor would be able to simply possess a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Charge him as a minor. Charge his parents as adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: Charge him as a minor. Charge his parents as adults. Charge all three as adults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 tfw when you throw away your life to defend cops lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 The Milwaukee Brewers cancelled their game too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Following the cancellation of the Milwaukee Brewers and Cincinnati Reds game tonight, more teams are discussing the possibility of not playing, sources tell ESPN. Among those currently discussing it: the Seattle Mariners, who have the most Black players of any team in MLB.— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) August 26, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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