SilentWorld Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Jason said: There's so much bad jurisprudence around making sure law enforcement (and government officials in general) can flagrantly break the law with impunity. 7 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Codifying racism into law isn't hard . . . for racists. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect...” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 11 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Codifying racism into law isn't hard . . . for racists. Large brain: codify racism into law Galaxy brain: empower discretion in a racist society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 So Ohio has sent me all of one letter in the mail before purging my name from their voter database. Mind you, I don't live in Ohio nor have I in almost a decade. That said, I hope they're at the very least sending well more than one to Ohio residents. But they're probably not because the real intention here is to disenfranchise voters (and primarily those who vote Democrat; black and brown voters) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I understand the reason for the invocation of the castle doctrine in the judge's instructions as that would be part of the "mistake of fact" (that she thought she was in her own home) that the defense is predicating its case on. It's still a morally repugnant situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: I understand the reason for the invocation of the castle doctrine in the judge's instructions as that would be part of the "mistake of fact" (that she thought she was in her own home) that the defense is predicating its case on. It's still a morally repugnant situation. I thought you might like this story from The Washington Post. Amber Guyger, police officer who shot a man to death in his apartment, found guilty of murderhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/01/amber-guyger-police-officer-who-shot-man-death-his-apartment-found-guilty-murder/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 ACTUAL JUSTICE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 There are some legal experts who think that the judge’s instructions regarding castle doctrine were a means of stifling a potential path of appeal. An interesting take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 If she was found innocent because of that anyone could just now walk into someone's house and shoot them and say they thought it was their place of living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: If she was found innocent because of that anyone could just now walk into someone's house and shoot them and say they thought it was their place of living. lol obviously the protection would have only applied to cops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: If she was found innocent because of that anyone could just now walk into someone's house and shoot them and say they thought it was their place of living. That’s not how trial court decisions work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: There are some legal experts who think that the judge’s instructions regarding castle doctrine were a means of stifling a potential path of appeal. An interesting take. I'm going to guess that the reasoning behind that theory is that by including the doctrine in the jury instructions, the judge essentially precluded an appellate reversal on procedural grounds that it was NOT presented to the jury at the trial phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I'm going to guess that the reasoning behind that theory is that by including the doctrine in the jury instructions, the judge essentially precluded an appellate reversal on procedural grounds that it was NOT presented to the jury at the trial phase. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Tragically far more common than all the occurences posted here. Lest we forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/12/us/fort-worth-police-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F Killed at home because her front door was suspicious and lights were on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 38 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/10/12/us/fort-worth-police-shooting/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F Killed at home because her front door was suspicious and lights were on Jesus. Shot through a window? How would you even know they heard your orders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Fucking hell. Barring some explosive fact that hasn't been released, that cop needs to be charged with murder. What in the actual fuck is wrong with police? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 There is simply no scenario you could come up with where the actions of the officer were reasonable, even if she was holding her gun at the time. They snuck around in silence. They never announced who they were. They fired the shot that killed her less than 1 second after finally saying something to her. Unconscionable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 And he'll likely walk free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: And he'll likely walk free. Hey now. I bet they get at least a week of paid administrative leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 So after the Guyger justice was served, the universe had to balance that out with something twice as heinous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/14/fort-worth-police-shooting-atatiana-jefferson-investigation/ Officer has resigned and criminal charges may be coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 This is the worst one yet, unreal. The cop should be charged with third degree murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Amazatron said: This is the worst one yet, unreal. The cop should be charged with third degree murder. It's Texas, that's not how it works and I believe third degree is around the same as manslaughter in states where they do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I get blood boiling mad every time I think about this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Not sure what's in the water in DFW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbiggsly Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Everyone's armed, must make the cops nervous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 44 minutes ago, mrbiggsly said: Everyone's armed, must make the cops nervous An armed society is a polite society. Censorship is the action ignorance takes when confronted with freedom. Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 It's official, he's been charged with murder. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/14/fort-worth-police-shooting-atatiana-jefferson-investigation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Lifes comes at you fast. Good and fuck that dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Air freshening while black The sad thing is if this guy admitted to using drugs at least once in his life the cop would have used it as probable cause to search his car and ‘find’ felony amounts of controlled drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 12 hours ago, outsida said: Air freshening while black The sad thing is if this guy admitted to using drugs at least once in his life the cop would have used it as probable cause to search his car and ‘find’ felony amounts of controlled drugs. Oh he's a human lie detector didn't realize Daredevil was training cops these days... this is complete harassment. He's shocked that a black man would be "nervous"... typical power tripping cop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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