CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: What a novel idea Yep. You could see where they attempted to pry the door open with a crowbar or something. But it held and their ATVs and tools and other shit remained safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Yep. You could see where they attempted to pry the door open with a crowbar or something. But it held and their ATVs and tools and other shit remained safe. You mean the lights didn't scare them away??? What manner of arch-criminals are you guys dealing with out there?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: Wait, so a criminal will be deterred by lights but not an actual locked door? Yeah that's bullshit... sorry. Yes. For the same reason that homes on cup de sacs are more likely to be robbed. Or houses with no cars parked out front are more like to be robbed. The thief is looking for houses that seem vulnerable and give them the maximum time to get in and get out unnoticed. By the time a burglar has made the decision to break in to a home, a locked door isn’t a factor in the equation generally because residential locks are junk and they can just kick the door in. The stats on this are quite clear. I’ve mentioned before that prior to the theater business, I was a locksmith for a decade. Helping people make good security decisions was my job and knowing how thefts tend to go is a big part of that. Door locks on your house keep honest people out, that’s about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: People aren't going around door to door and seeing if something's unlocked Uh they absolutely do exactly that... are you kidding? They know that a lot of folks don't lock their doors apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Home invasions happen, of course, and I understand the fear. But I'd wager that making your home look occupied and having a security system are dramatically more effective than keeping a gun in the house to thwart a robbery, since robbery is a crime of convenience. I've said it in the past, but I just want to clarify, I don't have guns because I'm fearful and want to defend myself. That wasn't in my mind when I bought them. Most of the time, I don't even think about them or notice them. It's just more what I'd hope to be able to do in a hypothetical situation. I agree that deterring criminals is more effective than having a gun around. And I don't usually think about home invasions, except when these discussions pop up or I've watched too much true crime on Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Uh they absolutely do exactly that... are you kidding? They know that a lot of folks don't like their doors apparently. Sorry, should have been more clear. They weren’t on my street which always had people on it and someone doing that would be obvious. If someone gets into an apartment building or if they’re in an area where they can do that non obviously, it happens for sure. Just meant to suggest that “opportunity” means different things in different areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: Yes. For the same reason that homes on cup de sacs are more likely to be robbed. Or houses with no cars parked out front are more like to be robbed. The thief is looking for houses that seem vulnerable and give them the maximum time to get in and get out unnoticed. By the time a burglar has made the decision to break in to a home, a locked door isn’t a factor in the equation generally because residential locks are junk and they can just kick the door in. The stats on this are quite clear. I’ve mentioned before that prior to the theater business, I was a locksmith for a decade. Helping people make good security decisions was my job and knowing how thefts tend to go is a big part of that. Door locks on your house keep honest people out, that’s about it. My father and other law enforcement professionals I know would disagree so forgive me if I take their opinions and expertise on the subject over yours and continue to lock my doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Who cares about actual crime data I’m glad people fee safer with locks, it paid my bills for a long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Wait, so a criminal will be deterred by lights but not an actual locked door? Yeah that's bullshit... sorry. My building is lit at night BTW, both inside and outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, Jason said: My building is lit at night BTW, both inside and outside. You should really just take the advice of an internet guy and don't worry and leave your doors unlocked. It'll save you a half second of your day and you'll feel much better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 hours ago, TheGreatGamble said: Ridiculous. Nobody ends up in someone else’s home by mistake. lolno The dude passed out on my couch was pretty clearly there by mistake. Based on how he was dressed and how it went down I'm pretty sure he was intending to get into a different apartment in the building after a night of partying, and then stumbled into the wrong apartment after getting buzzed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I have yet to meet a cop or security expert who would say "Lights are more secure than a good strong locked door." Maybe against mole people or Nosferatu... but actual criminals? Damn the hills people strive to die on on this board never cease to amaze me. 31 minutes ago, Jason said: lolno The dude passed out on my couch was pretty clearly there by mistake. Based on how he was dressed and how it went down I'm pretty sure he was intending to get into a different apartment in the building after a night of partying, and then stumbled into the wrong apartment after getting buzzed in. I actually did this myself once... came home in a particularly festive mood and walked up to my neighbors door instead of mine. He must've had his door unlocked because I opened his door and stumbled in before realizing I was in the wrong apartment. Thank God he didn't shoot me but if he did, I wouldn't have liked it... I also couldn't really blame him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: I have yet to meet a cop or security expert who would say "Lights are more secure than a good strong locked door." Maybe against mole people or Nosferatu... but actual criminals? Damn the hills people strive to die on on this board never cease to amaze me. That isn’t what I said. What I actually said is that proper exterior lighting matters more (to avoiding home break ins) than locking your doors, and that is true because home break ins start way before the person ever gets to your door. This isn’t a remotely controversial notion in the realm of home security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: That isn’t what I said. What I actually said is that proper exterior lighting matters more (to avoiding home break ins) than locking your doors, and that is true because home break ins start way before the person ever gets to your door. This isn’t a remotely controversial notion in the realm of home security. It's pretty to somehow make the leap that it's therfore not worth locking your doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: It's pretty to somehow make the leap that it's therfore not worth locking your doors. I didn’t say that either. I said locking your doors doesn’t really stop break-ins because you just get your door kicked in instead. The vast majority of home invasions involve forced entry because once the decision is made to break in, a locked door isn’t likely to deter the person. My point isn’t that you shouldn’t lock your door, only that is of minor consequence to whether or not you will be the victim of a home invasion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGLatinBoy Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/26/2019 at 8:28 PM, SFLUFAN said: Our scale was: AP classes - 6.0 Honors classes - 5.0 Regular classes - 4.0 Was G the considered a cut-off point for a passing grade at your school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just like a week and a half ago someone tried to get into my apartment while I was out, they removed the bottom door knob. But I had the top lock also locked so they did not get in. They didn’t make a big scene trying to kick my door open, they gave up and my place was not robbed (again). Idk, locks can be p kewl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, stepee said: Just like a week and a half ago someone tried to get into my apartment while I was out, they removed the bottom door knob. But I had the top lock also locked so they did not get in. They didn’t make a big scene trying to kick my door open, they gave up and my place was not robbed (again). Idk, locks can be p kewl. Surely you must have had mad floodlights deterring them doe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Surely you must have had mad floodlights deterring them doe. Every inch of my apartment is covered in hue light strips, from the walls to the floor to the ceiling. Walking into my apartment is like walking into the middle of a rainbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, stepee said: Just like a week and a half ago someone tried to get into my apartment while I was out, they removed the bottom door knob. But I had the top lock also locked so they did not get in. They didn’t make a big scene trying to kick my door open, they gave up and my place was not robbed (again). Idk, locks can be p kewl. Well clearly you had some underachieving criminals there... to let something as simple and pedestrian as a LOCKED DOOR prevent them from robbing you. A REAL criminal would have battered your goddamned door down with his only worry being a bright shiny light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Is misrepresenting what somebody says really that enjoyable of an experience, or do you two still not understand? I’m never sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: . Uh, because people actually break into people's houses maybe? Damn D1P teaches me something else once again... apparently locking the doors to your home is unusual or something? I lock my doors. That was not my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I probably shouldn’t advertise this but I have zero security other than locking the door. No gun, no weapons, no bat by the door. So if you break into my house my shit is yours now. I need to look into a security system. Also maybe a dog. But I’m not ready for a dog to be shitting all over my lawn amd cleaning it up. Im also fat and out of shape, but if for some reason I can take you, I will kill you if you break into my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dodger said: I probably shouldn’t advertise this but I have zero security other than locking the door. No gun, no weapons, no bat by the door. So if you break into my house my shit is yours now. I need to look into a security system. Also maybe a dog. But I’m not ready for a dog to be shitting all over my lawn amd cleaning it up. Im also fat and out of shape, but if for some reason I can take you, I will kill you if you break into my house. Intruders beware lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dodger said: I probably shouldn’t advertise this but I have zero security other than locking the door. No gun, no weapons, no bat by the door. So if you break into my house my shit is yours now. I need to look into a security system. Also maybe a dog. But I’m not ready for a dog to be shitting all over my lawn amd cleaning it up. Im also fat and out of shape, but if for some reason I can take you, I will kill you if you break into my house. Bruh just buy some maximum security garden lights. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, Dodger said: I probably shouldn’t advertise this but I have zero security other than locking the door. No gun, no weapons, no bat by the door. So if you break into my house my shit is yours now. I need to look into a security system. Also maybe a dog. But I’m not ready for a dog to be shitting all over my lawn amd cleaning it up. Im also fat and out of shape, but if for some reason I can take you, I will kill you if you break into my house. I recommend a well-built katana. FYI, that's a joke, in case Emblazon sees it. No harm intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 6 hours ago, sblfilms said: Locking doors to your home doesn’t stop break-ins, it just gets your door kicked in too Auto burglaries are different though. Locked doors and your crap hidden away makes the probability of your car being broken into drop dramatically. I mean if you have reinforced doors and door frames it can't be kicked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I mean if you have reinforced doors and door frames it can't be kicked in. Certainly, I sold a lot of door and jamb upgrades in my day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Dodger said: I probably shouldn’t advertise this but I have zero security other than locking the door. No gun, no weapons, no bat by the door. So if you break into my house my shit is yours now. I need to look into a security system. Also maybe a dog. But I’m not ready for a dog to be shitting all over my lawn amd cleaning it up. Im also fat and out of shape, but if for some reason I can take you, I will kill you if you break into my house. All you need is a good bright flashlight and you'll be ok. Those things are like goddamned light sabers to crooks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 11 hours ago, sblfilms said: Is misrepresenting what somebody says really that enjoyable of an experience, or do you two still not understand? I’m never sure... I could cut titanium down there right now, bro. Lemme know if you need anything lathed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 There are no black Christians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 5:11 PM, sblfilms said: I didn’t say that either. I said locking your doors doesn’t really stop break-ins because you just get your door kicked in instead. The vast majority of home invasions involve forced entry because once the decision is made to break in, a locked door isn’t likely to deter the person. My point isn’t that you shouldn’t lock your door, only that is of minor consequence to whether or not you will be the victim of a home invasion What about security doors, they do anything? I think they are ugly but I leave mine on so I can open the front door and let a breeze in and it keeps my cats from getting out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 We decided Hispanic counts for the purposes of this thread, right? "My dad's black. My little nephew's Italian, Mexican, and Aloha." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jason said: We decided Hispanic counts for the purposes of this thread, right? I'm Hispanic. I'll allow this. Do I get to allow this? I'm not sure, but I'll do it anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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