Fizzzzle Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Sanada and Taslim are great, that's true. Lewis Tan and Chin Han are really good, too. Max Huang has also done a lot of good stunt work. I was more focused on the people running the show. Like, unless they're basically letting the actors choreograph their own fights (which they might have), I just don't see how it all comes together. Movies about fighting should be done by people (or at least be heavily guided by people) who have a background in movie fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Sanada and Taslim are great, that's true. Lewis Tan and Chin Han are really good, too. Max Huang has also done a lot of good stunt work. I was more focused on the people running the show. Like, unless they're basically letting the actors choreograph their own fights (which they might have), I just don't see how it all comes together. Movies about fighting should be done by people (or at least be heavily guided by people) who have a background in movie fights. I'm looking at the credits for the stunt team and fight coordination team and they seem pretty solid. The movie will be fine with the fights. Its everything else that's in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Damn. @Fizzzzle with a terrible take with which @skillzdadirectadelivered a stunning Fatality. @Fizzzzle tried a clever back tracking escape move but NOPE!! DOUBLE FATALITY by @skillzdadirecta 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Can't hide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: Damn. @Fizzzzle with a terrible take with which @skillzdadirectadelivered a stunning Fatality. @Fizzzzle tried a clever back tracking escape move but NOPE!! DOUBLE FATALITY by @skillzdadirecta Hey, it's all in a playful FRIENDSHIP until ya'll be getting all BABALITY up in here (yep that whole thing did not go as smoothly as I had envisioned it in my head) Seriously though, I was highly skeptical all things considered. While I am wavering with cautious optimism, I cannot help but being totally hyped for this to the point of RIGIDITY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Seems ok so far. The only thing that sucks...and it REALLY sucks...is the idea of making a superfluous new character for the story to revolve around. This is the kind of trope you ALWAYS see in bad video game adaptations and for that reason alone I'm fairly sure this will not be very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 The Get Over Here did sound forced and the Kano laser beam looked cheesy, but otherwise that looked WAY better than I thought it would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, heydude93 said: Seems ok so far. The only thing that sucks...and it REALLY sucks...is the idea of making a superfluous new character for the story to revolve around. This is the kind of trope you ALWAYS see in bad video game adaptations and for that reason alone I'm fairly sure this will not be very good. Is that the "Cole" character? MK9 is the only MK game I've played much since the 90's, so I didn't know if that was just a newer character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I don't know, the fact that they're only now releasing the trailer and advertising this when it comes out in a couple of months doesn't exactly fill me with confidence this will be good. WB might smell a turd in the room. Obviously I hope it's good, and not it's so bad it's good, but actually good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Is that the "Cole" character? MK9 is the only MK game I've played much since the 90's, so I didn't know if that was just a newer character. Could be wrong, but I looked it up and he seems to be a new character specific to the movie. The MK series is up there with Overwatch and Tekken as having arguably the most iconic and interesting characters in the medium. How the fuck is any screenwriter's first thought "none of these characters are interesting enough to be a protagonist" lmao EDIT: I guess it's possible there could be a twist at the end revealing them as one of the iconic characters...but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, heydude93 said: Could be wrong, but I looked it up and he seems to be a new character specific to the movie. The MK series is up there with Overwatch and Tekken as having arguably the most iconic and interesting characters in the medium. How the fuck is any screenwriter's first thought "none of these characters are interesting enough to be a protagonist" lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Does it really take that much emotional and intellectual labor to figure out I'm talking about the medium of games, not film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, heydude93 said: Um...does it really take that much emotional and intellectual labor to figure out I'm talking about the medium of games, not film? About as much labor for somebody to realize that I'm saying that Soldier76 and Eddy Gordo aren't iconic nor are they interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: About as much labor for somebody to realize that I'm saying that Soldier76 and Eddy Gordo aren't iconic nor are they interesting. K. An opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I disgree! Also it seems difficult to prove that MK, Overwatch and to a lesser extent Tekken characters aren't objectively well recognized and well received for the most part (both. within and beyond gaming culture), which was my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 hours ago, SoberChef said: Also, Kevin Tancharoen was who I was thinking of who was behind the Legacy series. Why wasn't he brought on board for this project, as he was more or less responsible for bringing back serious interest in a new MK film in the first place!? Kevin Tancharoen was going to make a film - but it was cancelled at the same time his season 3 for Mortal Kombat: Legacy web series was also unceremoniously cancelled. No one knows what happened. Also, I believe this "new character for the film" is a twist - people are suggesting he's Kuai Liang given the heavy emphasis on the Sub-Zero storyline for this film. In fact, I had assumed the POV character was Kuai Liang until people were complaining the movie is centered on a "nobody". I think it's pretty obvious he's not just a nobody, but a "discovering himself" story arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Pretty sure Lewis Tan's character is an existing character in a different form as @Greatoneshere mentioned. I was guessing he's some form of Kung Lao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Is Kuai Liang Sub-Zero's younger brother in the games? In retrospect the trailer definitely makes it seems like it could be setting up that twist. Alright, I'm invested again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, heydude93 said: Overwatch and MK characters are iconic enough that even tons of conservative grandparents recognize them. In addition to being warmly received by reviewers and fans, they've transcended being popular in just a gaming medium to having wider pop culture significance, like Mario and Master Chief. I think it would be very difficult to disprove this, but if you're up to it, go for it. Tekken, not having popular movies, shows or novels, is maybe not as much, but since the mid 90's their approach to character designs are universally beloved in gaming as well, regardless of some occasional missteps. This is more or less quantifiable, regardless of your personal opinions, though you're still entitled to them of course. Normally I'd say "I'm not the one that has to do the proving or disproving. You're making the claim so the onus is on you to prove it." But I just conducted a little experiment for this conversation's sake. Question: Are Overwatch characters part of the cultural milieu outside of video games? Hypothesis: No. Most of my friends and family aren't gamers and I've never heard Overwatch discussion among them. Unlike other video games. Prediction: My wife, who is not a gamer, and who has seen me play Overwatch plenty of times over the years, will not be able to recognize an Overwatch character. Experiment: Show her an Overwatch character (the most-picked one on PC according to this site, at that) and ask her to name the character and/or what game they are from. To my non-shock, she could not name Ana, and she couldn't say that she recognized the character from something. I told her she's from Overwatch. "Oh." I didn't stop there, however. I took this question to my friends who are gamers on our small Discord server. Here are the results from the seven of us who play games with some frequency: Now, I expected the guy on there who I've played Overwatch with before to be able to answer that and he did. But I thought I'd get at least one more that could recognize her. I didn't. Note, I am not saying that Overwatch isn't popular or a behemoth in the industry. I'm not even saying the game itself isn't recognizable to some degree among non-gamers. I fucking love the game. But it's characters absolutely are not icons. My wife and friends recognize Mario and Master Chief and Scorpion. 100%. Those are icons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Normally I'd say "I'm not the one that has to do the proving or disproving. You're making the claim so the onus is on you to prove it." But I just conducted a little experiment for this conversation's sake. Question: Are Overwatch characters part of the cultural milieu outside of video games? Hypothesis: No. Most of my friends and family aren't gamers and I've never heard Overwatch discussion among them. Unlike other video games. Prediction: My wife, who is not a gamer, and who has seen me play Overwatch plenty of times over the years, will not be able to recognize an Overwatch character. Experiment: Show her an Overwatch character (the most-picked one on PC according to this site, at that) and ask her to name the character and/or what game they are from. To my non-shock, she could not name Ana, and she couldn't say that she recognized the character from something. I told her she's from Overwatch. "Oh." I didn't stop there, however. I took this question to my friends who are gamers on our small Discord server. Here are the results from the seven of us who play games with some frequency: Now, I expected the guy on there who I've played Overwatch with before to be able to answer that and he did. But I thought I'd get at least one more that could recognize her. I didn't. Note, I am not saying that Overwatch isn't popular or a behemoth in the industry. I'm not even saying the game itself isn't recognizable to some degree among non-gamers. I fucking love the game. But it's characters absolutely are not icons. My wife and friends recognize Mario and Master Chief and Scorpion. 100%. Those are icons. Nice quantitative analysis, bruh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, heydude93 said: Nice quantitative analysis, bruh Thanks. Ludicrous claims are pretty easily smacked down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 "It's a birthmark" "What do you mean?" "He was born with it." DEAR GOD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "It's a birthmark" "What do you mean?" "He was born with it." DEAR GOD I know for 100% fact that I am going to love the shit out of this trash heap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Tbf the original's dialogue isn't exactly Kill Bill quality either to say the least, but it's still fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I didn't even realize there WAS dialogue in the trailer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "It's a birthmark" "What do you mean?" "He was born with it." DEAR GOD That line is so stupid I forgot it was even in the trailer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 54 minutes ago, heydude93 said: Tbf the original's dialogue isn't exactly Kill Bill quality either to say the least, but it's still fun! I honestly don't think there's a better video game movie in terms of just straight adapting the source material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Mercury33 said: Ok, lemme know when a YouTube filmmaker puts together the kind of cash to pull off that level of cinematography. I’ll wait. Mr. Beast could put up enough cash to budget a movie like this and even more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Pretty sure Lewis Tan's character is an existing character in a different form as @Greatoneshere mentioned. I was guessing he's some form of Kung Lao. I don't know the newer MK games' mythology so I could be wrong in terms of multiple "forms" existing at once, but OG Kung Lao's in the trailer, played by Max Huang. So unless there are multiple Kung Lao's? I don't remember. Kuai Liang seems more likely. 2 hours ago, heydude93 said: Is Kuai Liang Sub-Zero's younger brother in the games? In retrospect the film based on the trailer definitely seems like it could be setting up that twist. Alright, I'm invested again. That's the word on the street at least. It makes a lot of sense if they go that route given the heavy emphasis on Sub-Zero in the trailer and plot. Lewis Tan and Joe Taslim (who plays Sub-Zero) could very well pass for brothers too, so it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Ah, I missed Kung Lao in the trailer and I'm not up on the lore of Mortal Kombat... you're probably right about it being Sub Zero's brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Ah, I missed Kung Lao in the trailer and I'm not up on the lore of Mortal Kombat... you're probably right about it being Sub Zero's brother. Watch it just be some guy named Cole Young throughout. It will be such a missed opportunity if so. They should do the twist now though, at least as an end-credits stinger, if they haven't planned this "twist" from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Just now, Greatoneshere said: Watch it just be some guy named Cole Young throughout. It will be such a missed opportunity if so. Could always be a DLC character for the game... They are always adding new characters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Could always be a DLC character for the game... They are always adding new characters. Cole Young . . . the half-Asian younger brother of Johnny Cage (for some reason, thanks to that name)! I will say, the lack of Cage in this movie is a little saddening for me. He was one of the best parts of the games and the first movie (he was also enjoyable in the web series). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Shit, he COULD be Johnny Cage. They could have decided to make Cage Asian. Johnny Cage was always his screen name I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Could always be a DLC character for the game... They are always adding new characters. Can't wait for the scene where Rambo fights the terminator and then the predator comes in and finishes them both off! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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