Zaku3 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, BuckFly said: I like to think that I am at least respectably well read and worldly, especially given the time I've been part of this mortal coil. ...and man, was I embarrassed to be off with respect to where I thought Brunei is located. The name rang a bell be ause of HOI4. I usually play as either France, UK, or the USSR. I remember the name from the build menu and having to build infrastructure and improve the naval bases for supply. Have to defend it and the rest of British Malaysia from the Japanese. More so Brunei since the Dutch East Indes will more then likely fall to Japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckFly Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: The name rang a bell be ause of HOI4. I usually play as either France, UK, or the USSR. I remember the name from the build menu and having to build infrastructure and improve the naval bases for supply. Have to defend it and the rest of British Malaysia from the Japanese. More so Brunei since the Dutch East Indes will more then likely fall to Japan. Oh boy, look how damaging games are to people... Outstanding, Zaku. Thumbs up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I'm done allowing people to pretend that "criticism of [Islam]" is some sort of value-neutral search for the truth. New atheists have moved from pointing out contradictions in Christian scripture and insisting that a literal reading of the Bible is inconsistent with their professed values to reading Muslim scripture and telling people with pluralistic values that their beliefs are incompatible with a literal reading of the text. Suggestion being that these are at all comparable even though they can both be described as critiquing the religion. It's nonsense and I won't indulge it any longer. The new atheist who honestly points out contradictions in Muslim scripture to discourage religious fundamentalism is more of a fantasy than YHWH. It's all about how we should view Muslims as less than human and it makes me sick. It's just a bunch of dumbass motherfuckers chasing the sugar high they felt talking down to fundamentalist Christians, assholes that utterly lack the intellectual heft needed for honest critique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Anathema- said: I'm done allowing people to pretend that "criticism of [Islam]" is some sort of value-neutral search for the truth. New atheists have moved from pointing out contradictions in Christian scripture and insisting that a literal reading of the Bible is inconsistent with their professed values to reading Muslim scripture and telling people with pluralistic values that their beliefs are incompatible with a literal reading of the text. Suggestion being that these are at all comparable even though they can both be described as critiquing the religion. It's nonsense and I won't indulge it any longer. The new atheist who honestly points out contradictions in Muslim scripture to discourage religious fundamentalism is more of a fantasy than YHWH. It's all about how we should view Muslims as less than human and it makes me sick. It's just a bunch of dumbass motherfuckers chasing the sugar high they felt talking down to fundamentalist Christians, assholes that utterly lack the intellectual heft needed for honest critique. Lmao! So much for “circa 2016”. You go get em!! One more edit: Please don't indulge any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Anathema- said: I'm done allowing people to pretend that "criticism of [Islam]" is some sort of value-neutral search for the truth. New atheists have moved from pointing out contradictions in Christian scripture and insisting that a literal reading of the Bible is inconsistent with their professed values to reading Muslim scripture and telling people with pluralistic values that their beliefs are incompatible with a literal reading of the text. Suggestion being that these are at all comparable even though they can both be described as critiquing the religion. It's nonsense and I won't indulge it any longer. I've read this paragraph five times and it still makes zero sense to me. The "new atheists" point out that ANY pluralistic reading of both the Bible and Quran is inconsistent with the texts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, SFLUFAN said: I've read this paragraph five times and it still makes zero sense to me. I'm literally (LITERALLY) laughing so hard right now that I let out a little toot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, SFLUFAN said: I've read this paragraph five times and it still makes zero sense to me. Thanks for reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, Anathema- said: Thanks for reading. "Circa 2016" JFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Anathema- said: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Anathema- said: I'm done allowing people to pretend that "criticism of [Islam]" is some sort of value-neutral search for the truth. New atheists have moved from pointing out contradictions in Christian scripture and insisting that a literal reading of the Bible is inconsistent with their professed values to reading Muslim scripture and telling people with pluralistic values that their beliefs are incompatible with a literal reading of the text. Suggestion being that these are at all comparable even though they can both be described as critiquing the religion. It's nonsense and I won't indulge it any longer. The new atheist who honestly points out contradictions in Muslim scripture to discourage religious fundamentalism is more of a fantasy than YHWH. It's all about how we should view Muslims as less than human and it makes me sick. It's just a bunch of dumbass motherfuckers chasing the sugar high they felt talking down to fundamentalist Christians, assholes that utterly lack the intellectual heft needed for honest critique. 4 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: The left is hitching their wagon to Islam? What? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: The "new atheists" point out that ANY pluralistic reading of both the Bible and Quran is inconsistent with the texts. The difference is in how the inconsistencies are wielded. On on the one hand, for Christians it's used to undermine the notion of faith by pointing out the illogic, for Muslims it's used to insist they're barbarians-in-waiting. To Christians they profess pluralism is possible without the Bible, to Muslims they profess pluralism is impossible with the Koran. Christians range from misguided to malicious and Muslims range from violent to not-violent-yet. And all the while it's not even religious fanatics that are shooting, stabbing and blowing us up. Not to the same level as white terrorists. So yeah, you can miss me with the "just critiquing the religion" bullshit that I would have expected you to be too smart to fall for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anathema- said: The difference is in how the inconsistencies are wielded. On on the one hand, for Christians it's used to undermine the notion of faith by pointing out the illogic, for Muslims it's used to insist they're barbarians-in-waiting. To Christians they profess pluralism is possible without the Bible, to Muslims they profess pluralism is impossible with the Koran. Christians range from misguided to malicious and Muslims range from violent to not-violent-yet. And all the while it's not even religious fanatics that are shooting, stabbing and blowing us up. Not to the same level as white terrorists. So yeah, you can miss me with the "just critiquing the religion" bullshit that I would have expected you to be too smart to fall for. Is this a serious post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Anathema- said: So yeah, you can miss me with the "just critiquing the religion" bullshit that I would have expected you to be too smart to fall for. Your original paragraph was totally unclear to me as to the point you were conveying and not a failure of my intellect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: Is this a serious post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jason said: I will not indulge any longer! I will not stand for it! I'm coming for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Just now, Boyle5150 said: I will not indulge any longer! I will not stand for it! I'm coming for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Boyle5150 said: Yeah, I'm sure the new law has nothing to do with Islam. I was specifically referencing the post above mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I was specifically referencing the post above mine No worries, my failure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckle85 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 4:56 PM, Anathema- said: The difference is in how the inconsistencies are wielded. On on the one hand, for Christians it's used to undermine the notion of faith by pointing out the illogic, for Muslims it's used to insist they're barbarians-in-waiting. To Christians they profess pluralism is possible without the Bible, to Muslims they profess pluralism is impossible with the Koran. Christians range from misguided to malicious and Muslims range from violent to not-violent-yet. And all the while it's not even religious fanatics that are shooting, stabbing and blowing us up. Not to the same level as white terrorists. So yeah, you can miss me with the "just critiquing the religion" bullshit that I would have expected you to be too smart to fall for. You're aware that many of the white extremists attacking people tend to identify as and/or have connections to white jesus christians/cultural christians, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 My life has been far better since I stopped thinking about religion in any way, shape, or form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, fuckle85 said: You're aware that many of the white extremists attacking people tend to identify as and/or have connections to white jesus christians/cultural christians, right? Of course I am, and seeing how fellow white Christians aren't taken to task (even by atheists) in the same way Muslims are for Islamic terror necessitates an other-than-neutral explanation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Of course I am, and seeing how fellow white Christians aren't taken to task (even by atheists) in the same way Muslims are for Islamic terror necessitates an other-than-neutral explanation. I don't know of any (not that there aren't any) atheists who give Christianity a free pass. In fact, I see them criticize Christianity (ok) and even Christians (not ok), far more than they do Muslims (not ok) and Islam (ok). I also find that it seems hard for some people to understand the difference in criticizing an ideology and a group of people. AND I WON'T STAND FOR IT ANY LONGER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Boyle5150 said: I don't know of any (not that there aren't any) atheists who give Christianity a free pass. In fact, I see them criticize Christianity (ok) and even Christians (not ok), far more than they do Muslims (not ok) and Islam (ok). I also find that it seems hard for some people to understand the difference in criticizing an ideology and a group of people. AND I WON'T STAND FOR IT ANY LONGER I bet you were already sitting when you wrote that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: I bet you were already sitting when you wrote that though. I hope you noticed the apparent mocking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Boyle5150 said: I hope you noticed the apparent mocking? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Do better, next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: Do better, next time boilmadaf.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, Jason said: boilmadaf.png we should make that an approved emoji, tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 totally not a bigot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: totally not a bigot I thought it was pretty much public knowledge at this point that he clearly hates and has hated Muslims? Also, the white men "protecting their white women" trope is hilarious to me. We're not raping anyone, your white women want something different sometimes, sorry. Guess what, our minority women sometimes want something different to (other minority men/white men). I've hooked up with enough white women in my life that whatever campaign they are trying to do isn't working. Thanks white men for letting me sleep with your white women! Like, Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 His fanboys are in denial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: His fanboys are in denial I don't understand why we have to accept a person wholesale or not. Sam Harris is very right about some things and he's very wrong about other things. Forced fanboyism of anything is stupid. The evidence is obvious he hates Muslims, and has been there for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Wow. Not really related, but I have always hated Harris’ voice and speech pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Wow. Not really related, but I have always hated Harris’ voice and speech pattern. Thought I was in the 2020 thread and was gonna say, "I think Kamala Harris is a good speaker?" When Hitchens died, I remember some of his fans (dunno how widespread, it could have just been one singular comments section I was reading) thought Harris might be able to carry the torch. I don't know really know if he did or not because I know Hitchens was pro-Iraq War and thought any religion "rots the mind," but I honestly didn't follow him closely enough to know if he was batshit crazy as Harris is. Nor do I know if Harris has made an amazing analogy involving parties while comparing that to people's fear of dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 End of Faith and Letter to a Christian Nation will always be on my shelf. Great books. What say you about this latest development, @Boyle5150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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