b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 pathetic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Where is @Keyser_Sozeto tell us he can’t change everything, he’s got big things Tonga for, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 There is absolutely no legitimate political reason to concede on the refugee issue. As @PaladinSolo correctly stated in Discord, it doesn't move the needle one way or the other politically. You aren't gaining ANY Republican/conservative votes by maintaining the Trump caps, so why the hell bother doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: There is absolutely no legitimate political reason to concede on the refugee issue. As @PaladinSolo correctly stated in Discord, it doesn't move the needle one way or the other politically. You aren't gaining ANY Republican/conservative votes by maintaining the Trump caps, so why the hell bother doing it? There's even history to back this up: Obama was the deported in chief and Republicans hated him (though his skin color might just maybe be a rather large factor in that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I think there isn't the staff for more refugees. The agency was gutted, ran out of funds, closed a bunch of foreign posts, put on a hiring freeze, and have only just now got a director nominated. I would hope to hear that from the administration directly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Apparently enough people yelled at them. Its also possible someone on the inside leaked the previous info to the media to stop them from going ahead with such a stupid idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Anathema- said: I think there isn't the staff for more refugees. The agency was gutted, ran out of funds, closed a bunch of foreign posts, put on a hiring freeze, and have only just now got a director nominated. I would hope to hear that from the administration directly though. If that's the issue then they should say so. They haven't actually given a justification for this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Apparently enough people yelled at them. Its also possible someone on the inside leaked the previous info to the media to stop them from going ahead with such a stupid idea. That is exactly what it smells like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Like even if you subscribe to the idea that being tougher on immigration helps electorally in the upper midwest, refugees isn't where you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 56 minutes ago, Jason said: If that's the issue then they should say so. They haven't actually given a justification for this decision. 100% agreed and expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 We should go back to the old system of "anyone can come here and work, if you manage that for 5 years and don't get in trouble, here's some citizenship." That in conjunction with minimum wage hikes should make everyone's lives better and we won't need shit like ICE camps, border patrols, etc Well, we'd still need border patrols, but they'd be looking for people actually committing real crimes, not going on a walk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: That is exactly what it smells like. Where's @sblfilms to say he's not going to do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Not all American Christians suck, just the ones who support the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Some of the libbiest libs I know are Christian. I can’t personally wrap my head around all the mental gymnastics that must require but they’re legitimately wonderful people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 The Black church is force for good, white churches are, at best, problematic in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The Black church is force for good, white churches are, at best, problematic in general. Methodists seem chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: Methodists seem chill. Confirm that they're not. It's literally 50/50. Dad was a methodist minister 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fizzzzle Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I don't have problems with religious people in general. I find there's a fine line between people who are religious but have the mindset of "my faith makes me a better person" vs. "my faith makes me better than others. The former tends to be generally accepting of others and their beliefs/sexuality/etc, the latter becomes toxic. I've known plenty of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: I don't have problems with religious people in general. I find there's a fine line between people who are religious but have the mindset of "my faith makes me a better person" vs. "my faith makes me better than others. The former tends to be generally accepting of others and their beliefs/sexuality/etc, the latter becomes toxic. I've known plenty of both. wut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 21 minutes ago, Jason said: wut Probably related to the conversation before your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Hasn't gotten a lot of attention, but the number of kids in ICE camps has dropped by 80% in the last month, from 5,727 to 1,135: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Harris tells migrants: 'Do not come, do not come' THEHILL.COM Vice President Harris on Monday pleaded with migrants from Central American countries to stay home in a speech in Guatemala during her first foreign trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 Biden administration says it’s ready to restore ‘Remain in Mexico’ along border next month - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM Federal courts have ordered the administration to restart the Trump-era policy that sent at least 60,000 back to Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 US border agents engaged in ‘shocking abuses’ against asylum seekers, report finds | US immigration | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Revealed: documents released after six years of legal tussles uncover over 160 cases of misconduct and abuse Quote Shocking instances of sexual and physical abuse of asylum seekers at the southern US border by federal officers have been uncovered by Human Rights Watch, after a years-long battle to wrestle the information from the Department of Homeland Security under freedom of information laws. A stash of redacted documents released to the human rights group after six years of legal tussles uncover more than 160 cases of misconduct and abuse by leading government agencies, notably Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and US Border Patrol. The papers record events between 2016 and 2021 that range from child sexual assault to enforced hunger, threats of rape and brutal detention conditions. Some of the incidents involve alleged criminal activity by federal agents. Human Rights Watch said that the documents “paint a picture of DHS as an agency that appears to have normalized shocking abuses at the US border. The US should take urgent and sustained action to stop such abuses”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: US border agents engaged in ‘shocking abuses’ against asylum seekers, report finds | US immigration | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Revealed: documents released after six years of legal tussles uncover over 160 cases of misconduct and abuse Here, I fixed the title... Quote US border agents engaged in "shocking" abuses against asylum seekers, report finds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Yeah, there's almost nothing "shocking" about the abuse unless the abuse actually involves electric shocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Oh wow, what a surprise. You give people total power over other people for decades and also make it clear that there are no consequences for abuse of that power...and people are surprised they are abusing it? Cops, border agents, politicians, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zaku3 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 11:18 AM, Jason said: Didn't realize this thread had updates. This update is mos def a "liberals get the bullet too" moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 There's more in the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I was just in Mexico and everyone hates migrants there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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