MarSolo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, atom631 said: I dont see him letting this go for a long time. This will be a theme to continuously attack democrats and the liberal media. It’s Trump, by the end of the week there’s going to be something else he’ll fixate on. Last week it was pissing on McCain’s grave, by the end of the week he’ll be agreeing with Bibi that Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Knowing Trump, he'll probably now force Barr to resign just to rub it in that he was only brought in to squash the Mueller Report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: So? It's not a strategy that's helped him, and the Russia investigation polled consistently as an issue voters were least concerned with. Trump shutting down the government, tax cuts, and Healthcare are far more important on people's minds and lives. 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: This is one of those topics that the general public cares much less than politically focused news would lead someone to conclude. 1 hour ago, MarSolo said: It’s Trump, by the end of the week there’s going to be something else he’ll fixate on. Last week it was pissing on McCain’s grave, by the end of the week he’ll be agreeing with Bibi that Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews. The problem is this enforces his narrative that the liberal MSM cant be trusted...and to a degree, hes not wrong. They harped on this daily for 2 years. There was wild speculation and dots that were connected that seemed to not actually exist. He has been consistent since he started running that the liberal MSM media is fake news. He hasn't quit on that message and hes not going to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, atom631 said: The problem is this enforces his narrative that the liberal MSM cant be trusted...and to a degree, hes not wrong. They harped on this daily for 2 years. There was wild speculation and dots that were connected that seemed to not actually exist. He has been consistent since he started running that the liberal MSM media is fake news. He hasn't quit on that message and hes not going to. And no matter the results of the investigation he wouldn't quit on that message. This line of attack on the media is priced in. That's all he has. The end of the Muller phase of the investigation is bad for him because now that the "witch hunt" is over, it is easier for candidates to deflect and move on to actual issues that people care about, like health care, the economy/tax policy/income inequality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: And no matter the results of the investigation he wouldn't quit on that message but if the results were even remotely close to what the MSM had made it sound like, their credibility would've been upheld. As it stands, it was all bullshit for 2 years. It reinforces trump and discredits the MSM (and the MSM is definitely liberal-biased). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, atom631 said: but if the results were even remotely close to what the MSM had made it sound like, their credibility would've been upheld. As it stands, it was all bullshit for 2 years. It reinforces trump and discredits the MSM (and the MSM is definitely liberal-biased). In the age of the evergreen liar POTUS 45, reality really does have a liberal bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 That's what I've been thinking, how the news is creating and empowering DJT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: That's what I've been thinking, how the news is creating and empowering DJT. The big news outlets gave Trump billions of dollars worth of prime air time to run his rallies in their entirety and basically not fact check any of his lies. He gave them ratings both by fans and hate watchers. They are collectively culpable for this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Basically Trump and the news have created a fake controversy relationship like WWF (or whatever) and we're the idiots going "naw it's real bro!!! Austin 3:16!!!" And keep entertained by all the random b.s. Trump got to create his WWF-style news Network after all, we're all in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 30 minutes ago, atom631 said: (and the MSM is definitely liberal-biased). Facts of life have a liberal bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Facts of life have a liberal bias. except in this case, the facts were wrong with a liberal bias..... which is exactly what im getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 When the liberal bias is wrong, it's wrong for two years. It's like Ann Coulter somehow is the only one who knows what's going on: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435575-coulter-offers-advice-to-dems-in-wake-of-mueller-report-summary-point?amp The only way to beat him is with things you can do, not with things you hope happen to him that others do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Remember when "release the memo" happened? This is starting to remind me of it more and more. Republicans claimed part of the reason the FISA warrant for Carter Paige was improper was because the judge deciding things was not told that Hillary Clinton, in part, funded the Steele Dossier. Then then Dems released their response and it was revealed that the judge was told that a candidate for U.S. president funded the dossier. Literally the Republicans were basing that whole attack on the fact that they didn't specifically type in the name Hillary Clinton. Keep in mind how fine a hair Republicans will split on facts to reach their desired outcome before coming to conclusions without seeing the underlying evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: When the liberal bias is wrong, it's wrong for two years. It's like Ann Coulter somehow is the only one who knows what's going on: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/435575-coulter-offers-advice-to-dems-in-wake-of-mueller-report-summary-point?amp The only way to beat him is with things you can do, not with things you hope happen to him that others do. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm not sure that this would be a good strategy. Pointing out that he didn't get the wall built, for instance, would only lead Trump to point out that the Democrats have been the ones blocking his progress there. Does that really change anyone's mind? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Jose said: Why? It was /s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atom631 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jason said: I know most are curious to see the Mueller report rationale behind obstruction, but I’m interested to see if “did not establish” and “no collusion” is truly a distinction without difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: Someone should ask Linsey if he thinks the Senate should investigate John McCain for giving the dossier to the FBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Just now, Chairslinger said: Someone should ask Linsey if he thinks the Senate should investigate John McCain for giving the dossier to the FBI. Lindsey colluded with the deep state! Graham encouraged McCain to turn Trump-Russia dossier over to FBI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, atom631 said: The problem is this enforces his narrative that the liberal MSM cant be trusted...and to a degree, hes not wrong. They harped on this daily for 2 years. There was wild speculation and dots that were connected that seemed to not actually exist. He has been consistent since he started running that the liberal MSM media is fake news. He hasn't quit on that message and hes not going to. Remember when the FBI twice cleared Hillary of wrongdoing after constant media coverage? How can the news media not report on an active special counsel investigation for the length of said investigation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Remember when the FBI twice cleared Hillary of wrongdoing after constant media coverage? How can the news media not report on an active special counsel investigation for the length of said investigation? It went beyond just reporting on it. They were wildly speculative in regards to connections and actions that seemed to absolutely ensure there was collusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, atom631 said: It went beyond just reporting on it. They were wildly speculative in regards to connections and actions that seemed to absolutely ensure there was a collusion. Wild speculation? Jr. tweeted out his own emails showing that he thought he was meeting with a Russian government official to get dirt on Hillary. Manafort handed over campaign data to Kilimnik while still part of the campaign. Even if it's somehow true that they were ultimately too incompetent to pull it off, there was clearly active intent to conspire with the Russian government. Beyond that though, Barr is simply wrong that it doesn't count if they were technically private Russian citizens and not Russian government officials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Wonder if that can be used against Fox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jason said: That's so rich I can't eat the whole thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Still trying to use logic I see, you guys know these are the same people who don't believe in global warming because they can feel cold weather, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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