BuckFly Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Yep. Sorry, I'm calling it. I have mad respect for Nate B and Jason W and they do support it, but I am not buying it. 499 rec, for 5,390 yards and 30 TDs at 32 years old doesn't cut it, regardless of playoffs. Especially not in this era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I love Edelman, but I would agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Pats hate aside, Edelman is not a HOF receiver right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 He's a Hall of Famer for his post-season work alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckFly Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I love Edelman, but I would agree with you. BTW, for the record. I think he is great. I think if you are developing a plan to stop the Pats you start with "Stop Edelman". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 He will be a hall of famer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 He will be in the white hall of fame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckFly Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Man, Tim Brown had almost 1,100 grabs for almost 15,000 yards and 100 TDs and he still waited more than a decade to get in. If Edelman ends up in a couple more years with 650 for 7,000 yards and 45 TDs how in the world can anyone put on a straight and face and say, "yep, great in playoffs, he's in!" I even think the guy is great, but how do you leap frog a number of guys with that? and please no references to NFL "dead ball" era guys, when you could molest receivers all you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, BuckFly said: Man, Tim Brown had almost 1,100 grabs for almost 15,000 yards and 100 TDs and he still waited more than a decade to get in. If Edelman ends up in a couple more years with 650 for 7,000 yards and 45 TDs how in the world can anyone put on a straight and face and say, "yep, great in playoffs, he's in!" Black guy has to work doubly has hard as a white guy don't you know? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Edelman HOF talk doesn't happen if he's not catching passes from Tom Brady, which means playoffs and Superbowls. I honestly don't think there's much real chance he gets in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect the hall of fame voting process to make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, TwinIon said: Edelman HOF talk doesn't happen if he's not catching passes from Tom Brady, which means playoffs and Superbowls. I honestly don't think there's much real chance he gets in. Any QB could throw to Edelman since he’s always wide open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 43 minutes ago, BuckFly said: Man, Tim Brown had almost 1,100 grabs for almost 15,000 yards and 100 TDs and he still waited more than a decade to get in. If Edelman ends up in a couple more years with 650 for 7,000 yards and 45 TDs how in the world can anyone put on a straight and face and say, "yep, great in playoffs, he's in!" I even think the guy is great, but how do you leap frog a number of guys with that? and please no references to NFL "dead ball" era guys, when you could molest receivers all you wanted. 39 minutes ago, TwinIon said: Edelman HOF talk doesn't happen if he's not catching passes from Tom Brady, which means playoffs and Superbowls. I honestly don't think there's much real chance he gets in. Playoffs and Super Bowls is all it takes. He's one of the greatest post-season receivers of all time. You can be average for your career in the regular season and be a hall of famer if you kill it in the playoffs, which he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Any QB could throw to Edelman since he’s always wide open But he needs Brady to encourage him to run up the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 21 hours ago, Slug said: Playoffs and Super Bowls is all it takes. He's one of the greatest post-season receivers of all time. You can be average for your career in the regular season and be a hall of famer if you kill it in the playoffs, which he does. It doesn’t work that way for receivers. QBs, yes, receivers, no. There are 27 receivers from the modern era in the HOF currently. A few more will get in by the time Edelman is done and eligible. There’s no sane argument for Edelman being one of the top 30-35 receivers of all time. 21 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you expect the hall of fame voting process to make sense The NFL HOF voting doesn’t always make sense but it’s been fairly consistent. Hines Ward is gonna struggle to make it in the HOF if he makes it at all and Hines was more productive for longer than Edelman. Y’all don’t know what you’re talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: It doesn’t work that way for receivers. QBs, yes, receivers, no. Lynn Swann says what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 It’s not going to matter when Edelman has 5 rings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Slug said: Lynn Swann says what? If Edelman played in the late 70s his career would have been shorter than Swann’s. Joking aside, 1/29 receivers does not make for a compelling case for how the position is treated, that’s like saying Flacco should be in because Namath is. This problem is gonna have to be addressed at a bunch of positions, though. There’s no way they’re going to let in both Mannings, Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Rivers, and Roethlisberger... they won’t have the HOF be 25% QBs all from the same decade / era. 2 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: It’s not going to matter when Edelman has 5 rings The Pats will drop Edelman like a hot rock as they do with every RB and WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slug Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: Joking aside, 1/29 receivers does not make for a compelling case for how the position is treated, that’s like saying Flacco should be in because Namath is. Bob Hayes? John Stallworth? Yeah, it's not common for the position. But it happens. And we're now talking about a guy who is a 3x Super Bowl winner, an MVP, and who is second only to Jerry Rice in post-season receptions? He'll go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Edelman still gets wide open on short routes so I doubt the Pats will cut him anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Edelman isn't going to the HOF, in 10 years no one will remember who he was let alone put him on a list with guys like Fitzgerald, Jones, and Brown, lol. His post season stats are skewed because of the number of games hes played in, Rice is probably the only one to have played in more games than him too in the playoffs because he was on a dominant team for so long, Rice just also dominated the regular season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 4 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Edelman isn't going to the HOF, in 10 years no one will remember who he was let alone put him on a list with guys like Fitzgerald, Jones, and Brown, lol. Guy one: Remember Julian Edelman? Guy Two: Who? Oh yeah that white guy! He will be remembered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Baseball player is connected to steroids - he carries that scarlet letter for life, forever tainting his career. Football player tests positive - meh. How does this effect my fantasy team? The way fans treat steroid users in these 2 sports is so weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I dunno why, but I've never really given a shit about steroids in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 In baseball you only need to do one thing, hit the ball far. In football you have to do a bunch of things well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Julian Edelman is Wayne Chrebet who just happened to play on the Pats. Chrebet in the regular season averaged more yards per reception and fumbled / used PEDs less often. Neither of them belong in any hall of fame other than the 5'10" white guy hall of fame which isn't a thing because nobody cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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