Jason Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 How the hell was that not discovered?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Yay, verily that dude should'th resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I guess the fact that his LT gov is an african american makes this a bit more difficult to try and explain away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I like the idea of "Governor Fairfax" anyway. It is after all the name of the most important county in Virginia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Big win for the Virginian-Pilot to break this. Yay local news! Seriously, dude should immediately resign. This is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I find it interesting that this dude knowing this was out there in the wild began a political career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I initially assumed we were talking about his high school year book. Med school Is there any reason to believe Northam still believes this is appropriate behavior? People change, they mature, and 35 years is actually a long time. But probably best politically for the dude to just leave office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Also, after his statement this week that was seized upon by anti-abortion activists, I'm wondering if maybe this was something some anti-Northam group was holding in reserve for a rainy day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, sblfilms said: IIs there any reason to believe Northam still believes this is appropriate behavior? People change, they mature, and 35 years is actually a long time. But probably best politically for the dude to just leave office. I seriously doubt that he still believes it is appropriate behavior, but that's largely irrelevant. It would be expedient for him and the Virginia Democratic Party for him to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I seriously doubt that he still believes it is appropriate behavior, but that's largely irrelevant. It would be expedient for him and the Virginia Democratic Party for him to resign. I don’t think it is irrelevant, society needs to be better at allowing people to change for the better. Punishing decent people today for their transgressions 30 years ago is non-sensical. But we aren’t good at that, so your second sentence remains the prudent course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, CayceG said: Also, after his statement this week that was seized upon by anti-abortion activists, I'm wondering if maybe this was something some anti-Northam group was holding in reserve for a rainy day. A post on Twitter said that the VA GOP knew about this during the campaign but hid it because if it came to light, Northam would've received all the Republican votes 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I initially assumed we were talking about his high school year book. Med school Is there any reason to believe Northam still believes this is appropriate behavior? People change, they mature, and 35 years is actually a long time. But probably best politically for the dude to just leave office. You pretty much just said what when through my mind, word for word. Scary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: Hey that's solid work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Hey that's solid work. I can't take credit - @Firewithin posted it in the Discord first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just to put it out there, 35 years ago was 1984. Even then, this type of behavior was beyond the pale. This was towards the end of the “New South” era after the civil rights movement saw more inclusion of black people and embracing more progressive politics. There is no way a student seeking an advanced degree at the time could argue “I didn’t know black face/klan hood/MAGA hat = bad” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, outsida said: Just to put it out there, 35 years ago was 1984. Even then this type of behavior was beyond the pale. This was towards the end of the “New South” era after the civil rights movement that saw more inclusion of black people and embracing more progressive politics. There is no way a student seeking an advanced degree at the time couldn’t argue “I didn’t know black face/klan hood/MAGA hat = bad” The point stands that people change, though. There was that Senator who went from being a Klan member to being good on civil rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jason said: The point stands that people change, though. There was that Senator who went from being a Klan member to being good on civil rights. True, but that senator was old af so one can plausibly argue times were different 70 - 80 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Happy beginning to Black History month everybody! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1, 2019 Author Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, outsida said: True, but that senator was old af so one can plausibly argue times were different 70 - 80 years ago. "Northam has changed since 35 years ago" is a distinct argument from "Northam can't be expected to have known better". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 You know what? After the way Northam sold out to Bezos for Amazon HQ2 in a deal that's REALLY shitty for the state, I'd be goddamned chuffed to see the back of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I have been driving yet. Has it been determined which of the two costumed people is him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 What a douche! He needs to be shown the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Snaynay1 said: I have been driving yet. Has it been determined which of the two costumed people is him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Snaynay1 said: I have been driving yet. Has it been determined which of the two costumed people is him? I think it makes most sense that he is in blackface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, osxmatt said: My question is when is an apology good enough for others? I actually think he should step down and or should never have entered into the game of politics, but that is also beside the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 I am assuming him and his team are discussing which of the two costumes is less offensive before he states which one is him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 1 minute ago, PaladinSolo said: “Who wore it better?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Tom Perriello's oppo research team is retroactively fired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 You know I was actually going to wait until I heard what he said about it and uhh... Sometimes it's what you don't say that counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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