TwinIon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Army’s long-awaited Iraq war study finds Iran was the only winner in a conflict that holds many lessons for future wars Quote The 1,300-page, two volume history, complete with more than 1,000 declassified documents, spans the 2003 invasion through the U.S. withdrawal, the rise of ISIS, and the influence of Syria and Iran. “At the time of this project’s completion in 2018, an emboldened and expansionist Iran appears to be the only victor,” authors wrote in the concluding chapter. From the description in that article, it seems the study is an honest take on the war, acknowledging the failures made at every level, from the strategic to the political. They argue that the Iraq war has lessons that need to be heeded even in conflicts with "peer or near-peer competitors". Unsurprisingly, the Army thinks the Army needs more money and more troops, even with technological advances. Quote Additional highlights include the following, as highlighted in previous reporting: The need for more troops: At no point during the Iraq war did commanders have enough troops to simultaneously defeat the Sunni insurgency and Iranian-backed Shiite militias.The failure to deter Iran and Syria: Iran and Syria gave sanctuary and support to Shiite and Sunni militants, respectively, and the U.S. never developed an effective strategy to stop this.Coalition warfare wasn’t successful: The deployment of allied troops had political value but was “largely unsuccessful” because the allies didn’t send enough troops and limited the scope of their operations.The National Guard needs more training: While many National Guard units performed well, some brigades had so much difficulty dealing with insurgents that U.S. commanders stopped assigning them their own battlespace to control. The study found that Guard units need more funding and training.The failure to develop self-reliant Iraqi forces: The U.S.-led effort to train and equip Iraqi forces was under-resourced for most of the war. A premature decision to transfer sovereignty to the Iraqis made it harder to blunt political pressure by Iraqi officials on Iraqi commanders.An ineffective detainee policy: The U.S. decided at the outset not to treat captured insurgents or militia fighters as prisoners of war and then never developed an effective way to handle detainees. Many Sunni insurgents were returned to the battlefield.Democracy doesn’t necessarily bring stability: U.S. commanders believed the 2005 Iraqi elections would have a “calming effect,” but those elections instead exacerbated ethnic and sectarian tensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Democracy doesn’t necessarily bring stability: You don't say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Nice of the Army to validate what everyone who has paid the least bit of attention has known for about a decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The unfortunate thing is that many people equate democracy with human rights and/or equality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, osxmatt said: Democracy doesn’t necessarily bring stability: You don't say? But we’re the most stabliest country the world has ever seen. Nobody has ever seen as bigglie stable as is. That’s why caravans of Spaniards are crossing the Atlantic to invade our country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Let me get this straight, you can’t solve millennium years old culture differences and usher in happy happy times by wielding an arsenal of weapons as a crusading outsider?! Hundreds of years of doctrine turned on its ear I tell ya!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Let me get this straight, you can’t solve millennium years old culture differences and usher in happy happy times by wielding an arsenal of weapons as a crusading outsider?! Hundreds of years of doctrine turned on its ear I tell ya!! You can. We were >||<- this close to doing it. And we’ve have gotten away with it, if it wasn’t for those meddling millennial kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 That shoe thrower had the right idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Pretty sure we push democracies on other countries because we get along better with democracies - surely there is no self interest there we swear! Oh, wait, Iran won? Either we're dumbasses or pushing democracies on others so we can better manipulate their country is a bad idea. Or both. We're both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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