SaysWho? Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 https://news.gallup.com/poll/236420/record-low-extremely-proud-americans.aspx For me, while I'm one of the ones shouting "USA USA!" when American teams are playing internationally, the "pride" part I don't get as much since I didn't do anything to earn being an American besides being born here (it would likely be different for an immigrant who did have to work to become a citizen). I understand that when you're a minority and you've been oppressed, there's something to be said about being proud of who you are, which includes your race or orientation or religion, but ideally, I'm with less pride and more appreciation for what you are. I guess it's like that George Carlin line: you wouldn't be proud of being 5'10", so why be prideful of how you were born as if you didn't work to achieve it? Be happy, not proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 What I'm reading from these graphs is that the left clearly hates America! Anyway... So in other words, 47% of people still haven't examined their belief about whether it makes any sense to be proud of something over which you had no control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Nokra said: What I'm reading from these graphs is that the left clearly hates America! Anyway... So in other words, 47% of people still haven't examined their belief about whether it makes any sense to be proud of something over which you had no control. MAGA ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Good. The fewer people that are proud of something for no reason, the more people that will actually fight to improve something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Good. The fewer people that are proud of something for no reason, the more people that will actually fight to improve something. But Americans are lazy. It will get fixed eventually if we just are not proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, Jason said: MAGA ? Make America Deutsch Again! :merkel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I am 100% sure that I am 0% proud to be an American. I used to be when I thought that to some degree we were the liberal, progressive ideal in the world. The "shining city on a hill". The "bring your meek, your poor, your huddled masses". Not overly proud, I've always been critical of America and its policies. But since Trump? This is next level. Nope. We're an actively "shithole country" now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I used to be when I thought that to some degree we were the liberal, progressive ideal in the world. The "shining city on a hill". The "bring your meek, your poor, your huddled masses". OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, SFLUFAN said: OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Hey, I granted we've never achieved those ideals, but we had them. People believed in them. As I said, I've always been critical of the US. But there was a bent towards something resembling a positive direction. Now, we're actively in a negative direction. That is a big change, even if it seems small when written out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Nokra said: What I'm reading from these graphs is that the left clearly hates America! Anyway... So in other words, 47% of people still haven't examined their belief about whether it makes any sense to be proud of something over which you had no control. You need a certain amount of blind loyalty and stupidity to keep things going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarSolo Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I openly admit that I'm embarrassed to be an American nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I was fairly ashamed of this country during the Bush years, and I didn't even pay much attention to politics then. During the Obama years I would say less ashamed would be the general feeling with brief moments of actual pride. Under Trump it's a continuous, years long slog of constantly feeling the national equivalent of shitting your pants for all the world to see. And then.....there are the bad days..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Being "proud" about it is odd no matter how well the country is doing. But if you're asking whether I like be associated with America, that is something to which the answer could be yes, but unfortunately is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: I was fairly ashamed of this country during the Bush years, and I didn't even pay much attention to politics then. During the Obama years I would say less ashamed would be the general feeling with brief moments of actual pride. Under Trump it's a continuous, years long slog of constantly feeling the national equivalent of shitting your pants for all the world to see. And then.....there are the bad days..... Pretty much this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Another thing millennials are killing smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I’m proud to not be proud to be an American Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 MACA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 My wife bought a flag yesterday to mount on our front porch awning. What do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: My wife bought a flag yesterday to mount on our front porch awning. What do? Burn it like the libtard you are? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaynay1 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 7 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: I am 100% sure that I am 0% proud to be an American. I used to be when I thought that to some degree we were the liberal, progressive ideal in the world. The "shining city on a hill". The "bring your meek, your poor, your huddled masses". Not overly proud, I've always been critical of America and its policies. But since Trump? This is next level. Nope. We're an actively "shithole country" now. Can you state the years when any of this existed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, osxmatt said: My wife bought a flag yesterday to mount on our front porch awning. What do? Upside down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, osxmatt said: My wife bought a flag yesterday to mount on our front porch awning. What do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Snaynay1 said: Can you state the years when any of this existed? When the country created laws that tried benefiting people to one degree or another. Laws that Trump is repealing or eradicating, which shows we were better of before than we are now. Did we reach the ideal I described? As I said, no, but it was bending in that general direction, and that's enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Snaynay1 said: Can you state the years when any of this existed? i think what's more important is this is shit they tell you when you're young because some Americans have been brainwashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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