AbsolutSurgen Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I am assuming when AMD say same performance, they are referring to similar framerates as NVidia using DLSS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Upon thinking about it more I will wait to see what after market cards are like. I am chasing 60+FPS at 1440p and perhaps ultrawide 1440p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-shares-more-details-on-radeon-vii Quote Mark Papermaster confirmed that AMD is not abandoning the mid-range market with their 7nm architecture. The company will unveil more Radeon products over the year. Quote We are really excited to start on the high end with our 7nm Radeon VII […] and you will see the announcements over the course of the year as we refresh across our Radeon program. — Mark Papermaster Quote This means that AMD is more than likely to launch new entry-level and mid-range products based on 7nm architecture. It is likely that the company will start with the entry-level, as Radeon RX 590 is a relatively a new product, although still based on dated Polaris architecture. It is also possible that these new products will utilize Navi architecture, which may focus on cheaper memory technologies such as GDDR6. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-cto-mark-papermaster-promises-more-radeon-products-this-year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/10/2019 at 7:42 AM, mikechorney said: I am assuming when AMD say same performance, they are referring to similar framerates as NVidia using DLSS? Nope! That’s the thing, it’s not even really rtx (though it also hurts) as much as lack of dlss that will hurt these. On a lot of big name games that will be using dlss, the 2080 will scorch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 hours ago, stepee said: Nope! That’s the thing, it’s not even really rtx (though it also hurts) as much as lack of dlss that will hurt these. On a lot of big name games that will be using dlss, the 2080 will scorch it. Then it sounds like the AMD card is overpriced, I understand the ridiculous pricing for the RTX cards, because of the extra cost of the AI cores. They enable DLSS/Ray Tracing. But if they're only getting comparable performance to the RTX cards, when they're not taking advantage of those new cores... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, mikechorney said: Then it sounds like the AMD card is overpriced, I understand the ridiculous pricing for the RTX cards, because of the extra cost of the AI cores. They enable DLSS/Ray Tracing. But if they're only getting comparable performance to the RTX cards, when they're not taking advantage of those new cores... But HBM2 is TOTALLY worth it for AMD! ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Yeah the bottom line is 16gb of hbm is expensive. There is a rumor out there that AMD will be losing money on these cards. Edit: I don't see AMD making a big splash until their new architecture after Navi. I believe Navi has been delayed and they are reworking some things because it isn't competitive with Nvidia products. AMD has cash now to burn, so I think we will see some real improvements soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Massdriver said: There is a rumor out there that AMD will be losing money on these cards. They're definitely going to be losing money on these cards considering I can't imagine anyone buying them unless they hate nVidia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: They're definitely going to be losing money on these cards considering I can't imagine anyone buying them unless they hate nVidia To be fair, there's lots of reason to hate Nvidia! But they do get shit done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, legend said: To be fair, there's lots of reason to hate Nvidia! But they do get shit done. No disagreement, so, allow me to rephrase: "hate nVidia enough to boycott the brand" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, legend said: To be fair, there's lots of reason to hate Nvidia! But they do get shit done. I would hate them if there was a credible competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, mikechorney said: I would hate them if there was a credible competitor. AMD is competitive in the mid range (or what was the mid range). The 580 is extremely competitive with the 1060 (arguably better), and this is the price point that most gamers are at. Nevertheless, people still buy 1060s over 580s by several fold. This isn't a rational response since a 1060 isn't going to be faster just because Nvidia has faster cards at the top. https://www.techspot.com/review/1393-radeon-rx-580-vs-geforce-gtx-1060/page8.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Massdriver said: AMD is competitive in the mid range (or what was the mid range). The 580 is extremely competitive with the 1060 (arguably better), and this is the price point that most gamers are at. Nevertheless, people still buy 1060s over 580s by several fold. This isn't a rational response since a 1060 isn't going to be faster just because Nvidia has faster cards at the top. https://www.techspot.com/review/1393-radeon-rx-580-vs-geforce-gtx-1060/page8.html 1060 isn't even in production any more. My thoughts were focused on enthusiast cards -- I wasn't considering their competitiveness on 480/580 iin a thread on a $700 card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 18 hours ago, Massdriver said: Yeah the bottom line is 16gb of hbm is expensive. There is a rumor out there that AMD will be losing money on these cards. Edit: I don't see AMD making a big splash until their new architecture after Navi. I believe Navi has been delayed and they are reworking some things because it isn't competitive with Nvidia products. AMD has cash now to burn, so I think we will see some real improvements soon. I find that hard to believe. These are probably their workstation GPUs that failed testing. Nothing has been mentioned about after market cards so I might just buy a reference one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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