SoberChef Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I'll be honest, the original film I watched maybe once as a young child, never read the novel this is based upon either. I'm absolutely clueless about what this is all about. That being said, between the cinematography and THAT FREAKING STELLAR CAST as well as a hell of an accomplished filmmaker, I am a little hype for it. However, I wasn't that big on his version of Blade Runner ... pretty, of course but without much substance in my opinion. Perhaps I just don't "get it"!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdeaOfEvil Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Cool visuals. Horrible song used (hopefully it's not in the movie anywhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Looked pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I have no idea what to make of that trailer. Having never read the books, I'm completely lost, but hopefully the movie is good, and I enjoy it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 This is an interesting take, and why I think there are more important representation fights than “wrong color of Latin actor” still happening today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Very promising. I don't think I'd trust another director with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This is an interesting take, and why I think there are more important representation fights than “wrong color of Latin actor” still happening today. Eh, I've known from the beginning they didn't go the full Zetsunni Runners (inspired by Sunni Muslims) since the book takes place thousands of years into the future (I say this as a Pakistani American raised devout Sunni Muslim). By then, it'd be multicultural. So long as the aesthetic, design, etc. of the culture skews Middle Eastern, that'll be more important. They shot the movie in Jordan, a Middle Eastern country, so I'd be super surprised that Villeneuve wasn't fully aware of this aspect of the Fremen. It's super integral, and being French Canadian whose best movie is about Muslims (Incendies), I don't see how he couldn't know. It's somewhat of a shame because it was such an opportunity to cast Islam and Muslim peoples in a beautiful light, given the book position on the story. But, that could still happen, we'll see. Sometimes, the reality of life is you cast big actors who are at least minorities. As soon as they cast Javier Bardem (Spanish) for Stilgar and Zendaya (half black, half white) for Chani, I knew they were going the pseudo-Dorne route (from Game of Thrones - at least that had Alexander Siddig) of "this is basically Arab/Muslims/Middle Easterners" but with a diverse cast of brown-ish actors than, like, real Muslim actors from those countries. Someday the world will learn Central and South Americans (and Spaniard) actors are not the same brown as Muslims/Arabia/Middle East/South Asia actors. Someday . . . Hey, at least it's not LOTR where the human armies "from the East" all look darker and browner and come in on Oliphants who all side with Sauron. Like, thanks guys, Muslims/brown people are the bad ones again yay. I'm sure a lot of the background Fremen will be brown actors of correct tone and vintage, which is what usually happens, since apparently my race and ethnicity aren't pretty enough for those mug shot roles! Edit: The back half of the novel involves the Fremen much more, with many more Fremen characters, so perhaps the second movie will rectify this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 The real question: will they include the Orange Catholic Bible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The real question: will they include the Orange Catholic Bible? They fucking better. Even if it's just on a bunch of different characters' desks who would have it, I'd take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 That trailer was pure eye candy. It was even better because I just toked on some Blue Cindy and they had to use Pink Floyd on top of that. I have no idea what Dune is about (yeah I should get on it) but it’s DV and he is one of my directing gods at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 hours ago, sblfilms said: Looks great, and I feel like in a post GoT world that the market is primed for quality Fantasy filmmaking. The first thing my wife said when I showed her the trailer was "reminds me of GoT." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 10:45 AM, CitizenVectron said: Geez they all wear grey. I'm not gonna be able to tell anyone apart in the action scenes, am I? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 2:44 PM, Emperor Diocletian II said: And the best part: I'll be able to comprehend most (if not all!) of the dialogue! Fear is the mind kiBWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 2:44 PM, Emperor Diocletian II said: And the best part: I'll be able to comprehend most (if not all!) of the dialogue! I actually had a hard time understanding a lot of the trailer's dialogue lol. Could just be my set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 What’s up with all the hologram looking stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris- said: What’s up with all the hologram looking stuff? Do you mean the blue shimmer when they fight? They have personal shields, and you're seeing it react to the strikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 My Warner distribution contacts say Dune is likely being delayed an entire year as they remap their entire release calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, legend said: Do you mean the blue shimmer when they fight? They have personal shields, and you're seeing it react to the strikes. shoot it with a lasgun go boom Actually one of my favorite tactics in the Dune boardgame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 45 minutes ago, sblfilms said: My Warner distribution contacts say Dune is likely being delayed an entire year as they remap their entire release calendar. Makes sense. This was originally supposed to come out the same week as my bday this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Tenet died to save Dune Thanks for taking one for the team, Chris 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 So should I read the book? Does this movie cover the first book? Or several? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, johnny said: So should I read the book? Does this movie cover the first book? Or several? Movie covers half of the first book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, johnny said: So should I read the book? Does this movie cover the first book? Or several? Yes, read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Chris- said: What’s up with all the hologram looking stuff? From what I remember, personal shields completely protect against fast-moving projectiles and lasers, so the best way to penetrate them is a blade (slower the better). It's basically a reason to allow cool-looking sword/knife fights in the future. One of the reasons people call Dune the Star Wars for adults. 2 hours ago, johnny said: So should I read the book? Does this movie cover the first book? Or several? It seems to cover roughly the first 50-60% of the book, though I wouldn't be surprised if some plot elements are moved around a bit to help. While the first book is (imo) the best, the later books introduce the most interesting philosophical stuff. The entire main philosophical question of the whole series is around predestination and use of future-seeing (and defense against it), and how a secret group has been working for thousands of years to install a never-ending authority on the galaxy, but the first book barely touches on that, or how they were wrong. In fact, the message of the first book is basically upended and that the entire idea was a mistake from the beginning...and how Paul's kid is the true golden child that corrects history and prepares for an unending "perfect" future. It's some heavy stuff, and the writing isn't always great, but the first three to four books for sure are worth it. Just ignore everything written by Frank Herbert's son. Everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 10 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: From what I remember, personal shields completely protect against fast-moving projectiles and lasers, so the best way to penetrate them is a blade (slower the better). It's basically a reason to allow cool-looking sword/knife fights in the future. One of the reasons people call Dune the Star Wars for adults. It seems to cover roughly the first 50-60% of the book, though I wouldn't be surprised if some plot elements are moved around a bit to help. While the first book is (imo) the best, the later books introduce the most interesting philosophical stuff. The entire main philosophical question of the whole series is around predestination and use of future-seeing (and defense against it), and how a secret group has been working for thousands of years to install a never-ending authority on the galaxy, but the first book barely touches on that, or how they were wrong. In fact, the message of the first book is basically upended and that the entire idea was a mistake from the beginning...and how Paul's kid is the true golden child that corrects history and prepares for an unending "perfect" future. It's some heavy stuff, and the writing isn't always great, but the first three to four books for sure are worth it. Just ignore everything written by Frank Herbert's son. Everything. I agree with your breakdown, but would argue the later books are much better, just more esoteric. I actually think Herbert's writing got better with time. And yes, avoid everything after the six Frank Herbert written books. To me, his fourth book, God Emperor of Dune, may be one of the best existential books ever written. And yes, the whole point of the first book is to upend the idea of the traditional white saviour narrative. I hope people see that once the second movie comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 23 hours ago, johnny said: So should I read the book? Does this movie cover the first book? Or several? You should read it regardless of whether or not you see the movie. Its fucking incredible. And yeah from I remember about those shields is that the slower you go the easier it is to penetrate the shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I thought this was pretty cool, and interesting to compare, all closer than you'd think: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 23 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: From what I remember, personal shields completely protect against fast-moving projectiles and lasers, so the best way to penetrate them is a blade (slower the better). It's basically a reason to allow cool-looking sword/knife fights in the future. One of the reasons people call Dune the Star Wars for adults. So what if a sword is thrown (and is thus a projectile), will it penetrate the shield? Why not design guns that shoot beneath the shields' protection threshold? Moreover they have the technology to create shields that block lasers, but their technology is insufficient to create shields that block blades? What a stupid book/movie! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokt Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, Chris- said: So what if a sword is thrown (and is thus a projectile), will it penetrate the shield? Why not design guns that shoot beneath the shields' protection threshold? Moreover they have the technology to create shields that block lasers, but their technology is insufficient to create shields that block blades? What a stupid book/movie! According to the wiki it’s 6-9 cm per second and could be set by the user. Apparently they have to let atmospheric gasses through the shield otherwise the user would suffocate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: I thought this was pretty cool, and interesting to compare, all closer than you'd think: That’s super cool. Doesn’t inspire a lot of hope though lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Chris- said: So what if a sword is thrown (and is thus a projectile), will it penetrate the shield? Why not design guns that shoot beneath the shields' protection threshold? Moreover they have the technology to create shields that block lasers, but their technology is insufficient to create shields that block blades? What a stupid book/movie! The books explain why technology is the way it is in great detail. This is a post-science fiction world, where future tech that the humans of their present use but don't quite understand, etc. Not sure if you meant this in jest or not but it is explained in the books. It's a unique universe with very strange and unique ways of combat. 1 hour ago, Mercury33 said: That’s super cool. Doesn’t inspire a lot of hope though lol I actually thought it made the former two look better than they actually are haha. To be fair, I never minded the Sci-Fi miniseries. It's as good as that could have been, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 If the movie gets pushed back again...? fuck it! Release THESE this year and I'll use my phone camera and garageband to make it my own damn self 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Dune delayed to October 1st, 2021 WWW.THEVERGE.COM Dune joins a growing list of titles that are delayed to 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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