marioandsonic Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 National emergency time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The #endgame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, osxmatt said: 4 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: National Emergency? If so is it to change the subject off Cohen and Buzzfeed or are Republican Senators privately starting to buckle? Sounds like it. The way the Tweet focuses on "Humanitarian crisis" suggests that he is giving SCOTUS the pretense for upholding it because Trump is stating a plausibly justifiable motivation even if it is a laughably thin pretense as all his prior statements have proven. Just like the Muslim ban(great precedent there, Kennedy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I can't wait for the climate change national emergency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 sorry to kill the boners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, Anathema- said: sorry to kill the boners So it will essentially be Trump screaming "WALL" for 10-15 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Apparently Pence, McConnell, and Kushner have made some deal. Notably absent are the Democrats who are needed to actually pass it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Apparently Pence, McConnell, and Kushner have made some deal. Notably absent are the Democrats who are needed to actually pass it. Throw Donny Boy under the bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Wall in exchange for DACA. That would totally throw a wrench at the Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Apparently Pence, McConnell, and Kushner have made some deal. Notably absent are the Democrats who are needed to actually pass it. It is fucking uncanny how similar this is to the exact thing that is going on in the UK right now. After her historical defeat this past week over her Brexit deal, supposedly May's plan B is to have them vote on the same plan again. As one pundit put it, her plan B is to scribble over the A on her deal and write a B I am wondering if this will basically be an attempt at a reboot of the discussion with Trump trying to recapture the initiative by saying the Senate has reached a deal to reopen the government....with the same deal as before with 5 billion for the wall. This may sound fucking stupid and pointless, but it's typical GOP rebranding without changing. It gives them a counter narrative to House Dems going out there and saying how many times they've voted to reopen the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 15 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: Wall in exchange for DACA. That would totally throw a wrench at the Democrats. Hes offering a DACA and TPS extensions apparently, which is worthless with the courts having thrown out his ending it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Hes offering a DACA and TPS extensions apparently, which is worthless with the courts having thrown out his ending it. He dun goofed last year by not taking the DACA for $25 bilion deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: He dun goofed last year by not taking the DACA for $25 bilion deal. The best deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Don't worry the Nazi conservatives are already balking at letting brown people stay. Let's remember why the DACA deal really didn't happen last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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5timechamp Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The offer is a nice way to put the "No" at the feet of the Democrats... not as if folks havent already made up their minds... but the unpaid voters might be influenced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, 5timechamp said: The offer is a nice way to put the "No" at the feet of the Democrats... not as if folks havent already made up their minds... but the unpaid voters might be influenced This is why the Democrats should've been first out of the gamt with something DACA-related, even if had zero chance of getting through the Senate. That's how you seize the initiative and go on the offensive against the GOP. They've really kinda blown that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: This is why the Democrats should've been first out of the gamt with something DACA-related, even if had zero chance of getting through the Senate. That's how you seize the initiative and go on the offensive against the GOP. They've really kinda blown that opportunity. Democrats are really bad at offense. That's why even some congressional dems do not know what to make of AOC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 The GOP will kill this on their own, lol. Just imagine the "base," Damn RINO voted for amnesty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, PaladinSolo said: The GOP will kill this on their own, lol. I wouldn't be so sure about that with the Senate GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I wouldn't be so sure about that with the Senate GOP. Give it a couple days of "Amnesty for illegals," or "amnesty Don" from the right, this deal would have been done last year otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Wait so what was the big announcement that Trump made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Wait so what was the big announcement that Trump made? Got pushed back till 4pm, but whats been reported is a extension for DACA, TPS, for wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, PaladinSolo said: Got pushed back till 4pm, but whats been reported is a extension for DACA, TPS, for wall. So temporary protection in exchange for a permanent wall? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So temporary protection in exchange for a permanent wall? lol. And right after SCOTUS effectively gave DACA a temporary extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So temporary protection in exchange for a permanent wall? lol. Yup, this is a "Compromise" that the GOP came up with itself, but didn't include any from the far right, and they even aren't sure what he will say, so the planned call between GOP senators also got pushed to after he speaks, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Give it a couple days of "Amnesty for illegals," or "amnesty Don" from the right, this deal would have been done last year otherwise. T hat Steve KingTweet is already indicative of what The Right thinks... They kept Trump from making the DACA deal when 25 Billion was on the table. Why would they for it now at one fifth of the budget? Makes no sense for them. As long as Trump is influenced by the Far Right and Senate Republicans refuse to call out the Steve Kings and Louie Gomerts of their party, nothing will ever get done no matter how much they try to blame Dems. Trump couldn't get the wall done with both houses of the Senate for this very reason because The Tea Party refuses to budge on anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: T hat Steve KingTweet is already indicative of what The Right thinks... They kept Trump from making the DACA deal when 25 Billion was on the table. Why would they for it now at one fifth of the budget? Makes no sense for them. As long as Trump is influenced by the Far Right and Senate Republicans refuse to call out the Steve Kings and Louie Gomerts of their party, nothing will ever get done no matter how much they try to blame Dems. Trump couldn't get the wall done with both houses of the Senate for this very reason because The Tea Party refuses to budge on anything. One of the founders of the shut down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: One of the founders of the shut down. They are sending him signals that they won't go for it... and to be honest for him to do it now? it WOULD be stupid of him. She's kinda right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 19, 2019 Author Share Posted January 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Bigly deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: 11 minutes ago, Jason said: Bigly deals. King Cuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 $25 billion for wall in exchange for DACA citizenship, if crime doesn't drop by 50%, Trump must reimburse the US Government in full personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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