SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 A Quinnipiac University poll found that 56 percent of voters held Trump and congressional Republicans responsible for the shutdown (the poll did not ask about the two separately). An additional 36 percent said they thought congressional Democrats were responsible. Only 2 percent of voters said that Trump’s national address changed their mind about building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border; 89 percent said it did not. ... An ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 53 percent of Americans held Trump and congressional Republicans responsible for the shutdown, while 29 percent blamed Democrats in Congress. People will put the blame mostly on Trump, but that doesn't mean they think Congressional Republicans aren't complicit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/shutdown-s-economic-damage-starts-to-pile-up-threatening-an-end-to-growth/ar-BBSiJaS?ocid=AMZN Quote The partial government shutdown is inflicting far greater damage on the United States economy than previously estimated, the White House acknowledged on Tuesday, as President Trump’s economists doubled projections of how much economic growth is being lost each week the standoff with Democrats continues. The revised estimates from the Council of Economic Advisers show that the shutdown, now in its fourth week, is beginning to have real economic consequences. The analysis, and other projections from outside the White House, suggests that the shutdown has already weighed significantly on growth and could ultimately push the United States economy into a contraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Quote In a Month You’ll Wish the Shutdown Were Only as Bad as Today Airport security screeners could quit en masse, grounding flights. The federal courts could stop hearing civil cases. City buses could stop running. And 38 million Americans could stop getting food stamps. Officials from Washington to Wall Street are pondering nightmare scenarios if the partial U.S. government shutdown that is already the longest on record extends into spring -- or beyond. TSA agents work at Atlanta International Airport on Jan. 14. “Shutdowns don’t get bad linearly; they get bad exponentially,” said Sam Berger, a senior adviser at the Center for American Progress, who worked at the Office of Management and Budget under President Barack Obama. President Donald Trump’s administration has found creative means to blunt some of the shutdown’s effects -- figuring out ways to process tax refunds, for example. Yet agencies that have been able to dip into user fees, leftover funds and other revenue streams are running out of those reserves. Lawsuits are already testing the administration’s ability to keep on the job unpaid workers, hundreds of thousands of whom missed their first paycheck last week. Efforts by Republicans such as Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina to cut an immigration deal to resolve the impasse have failed, and Trump on Monday rejected his latest proposal. An administration official said the White House is game-planning for the shutdown to continue through at least the end of February. Beyond its direct effects on businesses, economists say the shutdown threatens to shake consumer confidence and chip away at retail sales, particularly as unpaid federal workers and contractors forgo spending on cars, new homes and even entertainment. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/in-a-month-you-ll-wish-the-shutdown-were-only-as-bad-as-today/ar-BBSgOJh?ocid=AMZN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I hope DC TSA walks off the job Friday afternoon right before senators try and catch their flights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 @SFLUFAN Speaker Nancy Pelosi, citing security constraints from the ongoing government shutdown, has asked President Trump to reschedule his Jan. 29 State of the Union address or deliver it to Congress in writing unless the government reopens this week. A written SOTU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 This cuts right at the core of Trump because you know he's looking forward to an opportunity to address the nation and have the whole focus directly on him. She just took that away from him because he needs her permission in order to address Congress. It's the one institution of government he doesn't actually control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, brucoe said: This cuts right at the core of Trump because you know he's looking forward to an opportunity to address the nation and have the whole focus directly on him. She just took that away from him because he needs her permission in order to address Congress. It's the one institution of government he doesn't actually control. Trump will just broadcast the SOTU live from a Burder King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jason said: @SFLUFAN Speaker Nancy Pelosi, citing security constraints from the ongoing government shutdown, has asked President Trump to reschedule his Jan. 29 State of the Union address or deliver it to Congress in writing unless the government reopens this week. A written SOTU? I FULLY SUPPORT returning to the traditional format of submitting a written report to Congress rather than the ludicrous dog and pony show that is a live speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, brucoe said: This cuts right at the core of Trump because you know he's looking forward to an opportunity to address the nation and have the whole focus directly on him. She just took that away from him because he needs her permission in order to address Congress. It's the one institution of government he doesn't actually control. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 hahahaha The short lived pleasures are worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, SaysWho? said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jason said: Yup. I don't know enough about House rules. The President only performs a SOTU at the Speaker's request? So if the Speaker rescinds that invitation, the president can't SOTU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I don't know enough about House rules. The President only performs a SOTU at the Speaker's request? So if the Speaker rescinds that invitation, the president can't SOTU? Not in the House. The Congress is a separate branch. The president can't just walk in and disrupt things and take the floor willy nilly to the best of my knowledge, just as the Speaker just can't barge into the Oval Office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Pelosi has big dick energy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Not in the House. The Congress is a separate branch. The president can't just walk in and disrupt things and take the floor willy nilly to the best of my knowledge, just as the Speaker just can't barge into the Oval Office. Damn next level Pelosi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chris- said: Pelosi has big dick energy. She should buy a toilet from Whitaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Damn next level Pelosi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I wonder *sniff* if Trump will *sniff* add in ques *sniff* to his written State of the Union *sniff* so we won't be deprived *sniff* of his unique verbal idiosyncrasies *ssssssnnnnNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIFFFFFFFF* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Trump will just make his own video and send it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Of all the reasons to despise Woodrow Wilson, starting the tradition of delivering the SOTU speech in-person is by far #1 on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Of all the reasons to despise Woodrow Wilson, starting the tradition of delivering the SOTU speech in-person is by far #1 on the list. Oh please. Woodrow Wilson was one of the best presidents for alliteration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Texas GOP wants a wall so bad they're demanding that Trump not use their Hurricane Harvey relief money for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Pelosi just deprived Trump of his favorite thing. National attention on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Texas GOP wants a wall so bad they're demanding that Trump not use their Hurricane Harvey relief money for it. But don't worry, Montana and West Virginia are in on giving state funding to the border wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: Texas GOP wants a wall so bad they're demanding that Trump not use their Hurricane Harvey relief money for it. Wait, why are people sad facing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Nancy Pelosi, the people’s champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Wait, why are people sad facing this? Sad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 GMU economics department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: GMU economics department I don't even get his point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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