b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/18/trump-machine-swallows-rnc-1067875 The Trump campaign and RNC are officially one in the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 good news for the RNC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Trumpublican Party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 The Biggliest tent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 so can we stop pretending there are good Republicans? maybe end the foolish practice of trying to appeal to fictional moderate Republicans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: so can we stop pretending there are good Republicans? maybe end the foolish practice of trying to appeal to fictional moderate Republicans "This isn't what the Republican party stands for!" - Jeff Flakes, probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: "This isn't what the Republican party stands for!" - Jeff Flakes, probably It’s funny that the guy who now does the most posturing as a “reasonable Republican” is one of the original tea partiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: It’s funny that the guy who now does the most posturing as a “reasonable Republican” is one of the original tea partiers Also Ron Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Is this so he cant be primaried or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Is this so he cant be primaried or something? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I think there's a near zero chance of this happening, but it would be hilarious if the Muller investigation gets to the point that Trump either resigned or quit the campaign. I suppose in an extreme scenario like that, the GOP is screwed anyways, and their funding organization would be the least of their worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Is this so he cant be primaried or something? Trying to primary him would be career suicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 So how long before the bankruptcy filing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Trying to primary him would be career suicide I don't know, I don't think he would be successfully primaried, but also I feel like no one will have anything to do with him once he's no longer the President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I just don’t understand why the rnc is ready to go down with this ship. The titanic is sinking yet they’re lining up to host ticket sales for the second voyage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Nikki Haley will eventually save the GOP from Trumpism, but it will be after Trump crashes and burns in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, chakoo said: I just don’t understand why the rnc is ready to go down with this ship. The titanic is sinking yet they’re lining up to host ticket sales for the second voyage. The RNC got infected with the T-virus 2 years ago. They are now a carrier for the disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, chakoo said: I just don’t understand why the rnc is ready to go down with this ship. I wonder if them clinging to Trump tighter even as he becomes more toxic harkens back to the days of the GOP primary. Particularly that they aren't scared about a primary, they are scared about what happens if Trump loses a primary or otherwise isn't on the ticket in 2020. If Trump feels the GOP did him wrong, he'll run a third party/write in campaign and almost certainly guarantee a Democratic win by splitting the vote. Run scenarios in your head about how the GOP wins a 2020 election without Trump on the ticket. It is nearly impossible to envision. Short of Mueller having a case so damning that they can impeach him and have him in jail by Nov. of 2020(and maybe not even then) I think they have to back him. And even if they could do that, what does a winning coalition for the GOP look like if they piss off even 5 or 10% of Trump's most diehard cultists? Don't get me wrong, I am not defending them at all. I have said that I think the one core lesson the country should learn is that once you install a president no matter how corrupt, inept, or unhinged he is it is very hard to remove him from office. What the GOP itself should learn is to fight harder at the beginning before the demagogue has their claws in. Because once they're burrowed in you are stuck with them for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, chakoo said: I just don’t understand why the rnc is ready to go down with this ship. Michael Cohen was still listed as an RNC finance chair until a couple of months ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 GOP 2020 and beyond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Nikki Haley will eventually save the GOP from Trumpism, but it will be after Trump crashes and burns in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Leaked video of Trump and RNC merging: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: And even if they could do that, what does a winning coalition for the GOP look like if they piss off even 5 or 10% of Trump's most diehard cultists? You make a lot of reasonable points and I'm not 100% sold on most but I mostly want to point out this line atm. I have a hard time buying into this one. These were the same die hard bush supports shouting "you're either with us or a terrorist sympathizer or un-american" to "Bush who? Oh yeah fuck that guy. Palin my queen!!" These people will be die hard supports of who ever the GOP picks in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Cowards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Trump and his personal / political brand have infected Republicanism and his legacy will be how he permanently shifted the GOP (to be fair in a direction they were already heading). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Cowards South Carolina is also an open primary, so this could encourage sabotage voting by GOP voters in the Democratic primary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 This guarantees that Trump will dodge legal troubles and won’t die despite eating a mountain of fast food everyday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I am a lifelong Democrat who for the first time in my life voted Republican in the 2008 elections. I did this for one reason: McCain selected a woman as his running mate. For this act, I was accused of having lost part of my mental faculty: Some circa Victorian act of "voting with my uterus." Strange, that. The Democratic women were corralled to vote for Obama in 2008 because of one issue: reproductive rights. In other words, as my friend Cynthia Ruccia observed, "voting with their uterus." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: I am a lifelong Democrat who for the first time in my life voted Republican in the 2008 elections. I did this for one reason: McCain selected a woman as his running mate. For this act, I was accused of having lost part of my mental faculty: Some circa Victorian act of "voting with my uterus." Strange, that. The Democratic women were corralled to vote for Obama in 2008 because of one issue: reproductive rights. In other words, as my friend Cynthia Ruccia observed, "voting with their uterus." While browsing my "unread content", I saw this post without the hyperlink, and I was intrigued. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I don't know if this is going to pay off, I guess there was a lot of infighting over the prison reform bill, and now over Trump seemingly deciding unilaterally without department heads or congress being aware to pull out of Syria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I don't know if this is going to pay off, I guess there was a lot of infighting over the prison reform bill, and now over Trump seemingly deciding unilaterally without department heads or congress being aware to pull out of Syria. Apparently the National Security Council staff was kept in the dark too. Bolton is supposedly stunned and furious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, SFLUFAN said: Apparently the National Security Council staff was kept in the dark too. Bolton is supposedly stunned and furious. #RageWalrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, osxmatt said: Trump and his personal / political brand have infected Republicanism and his legacy will be how he permanently shifted the GOP (to be fair in a direction they were already heading). He didn't shift the party. He pushed it down the stairs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, osxmatt said: Trump and his personal / political brand have infected Republicanism and his legacy will be how he permanently shifted the GOP (to be fair in a direction they were already heading). Trump is nothing more than a reflection of the Republican Party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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