Rev Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Imagine loving science and not caring about avoiding fallacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Rev said: Imagine loving science and not caring about avoiding fallacy. I don’t think he’s a stupid person but when he said that, I couldn’t believe something so ignorant could come out of his mouth. Very weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Paperclyp said: Do you think logic is valuable? 23 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Sometimes but usually not Please explain how logic is not usually necessary. What are the normal tasks where logic is not necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 posting this video is very good and requires no logic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 23 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Dafuq, you think I always agree with Wade? I don't even agree with him here! At least not in regards to his inconsistent views. There's just nothing to be accomplished here anymore. Go spend time with your wife and kids. Or did you get a divorce, because judging from your Discord picture I'm not sure? Man, in a thread filled with shitposts, this beaut shines above the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, Jose said: Man, in a thread filled with shitposts, this beaut shines above the rest. Dafuq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 51 minutes ago, Jose said: Man, in a thread filled with shitposts, this beaut shines above the rest. Uhhh, okay? I'd legit been wondering for a few days and I figured then was as good a time as any to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 *poops in thread* *closes door* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 10 hours ago, gfxtwin said: ITT a discussion about racism that gradually becomes several pages of honkeys arguing about what should/shouldn't be considered racist behavior, minus viewpoints of users who have experienced systemic racism. Stay in your lane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 For the record, no one should ever agree with me about anything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: Stay in your lane Example of a Bernie supporter everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: Example of a Bernie supporter everyone. You just mad because he would have won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 13 hours ago, gfxtwin said: ITT a discussion about racism that gradually becomes several pages of honkeys arguing about what should/shouldn't be considered racist behavior, minus viewpoints of users who have experienced systemic racism. I've experienced racism since racists mistake me for a Hispanic dude. Nothing systemic, doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: I've experienced racism since racists mistake me for a Hispanic dude. Nothing systemic, doe. I’ve experienced racism because I’m white. Nothing systemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I have a philosophy degree from the top ranked program in the entire world, so I'm eminently qualified to say you are all dumb and should shut up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Also, Wade's notion of objective/subjective is actually much more astute than any of you are giving it credit. For example, imagine there is a red ball inside of a room. You and I experience a red ball; someone who is red-green colorblind experiences what we would consider a green ball; someone who is blind experiences just a ball, and then only through their ability to touch it; someone who is blind and lacks a sense of touch only knows the ball is there if they can hear it move; people outside the room don't experience the ball; you could imagine Godzilla-sized beings, for whom the ball is no more consequential than an atom or molecule is to a person. Moreover, almost nothing about my personal experience with the ball is a priori; without external forces like language and culture, I may have no concept of things like 'red' or 'ball'. Even if you wanted to reduce the ball to measurements like circumference and the visible spectrum, those are concepts entirely based in language, which is subjective. Outside of ourselves, we more or less play the odds when we assume something is 'objective'...Granted, the odds are usually impossibly in our favor, but since you rubes want to dive this deep into it, even a margin that slight is relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Boyle5150 said: You just mad because he would have won. And yet he didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Chris- said: I have a philosophy degree from the top ranked program in the entire world, so I'm eminently qualified to say you are all dumb and should shut up. As somebody who supports the man with a philosophy degree from the top ranked program in the entire world, I think everybody should shut down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I see a lot of “shut it down” and “I’m unable to talk about these tough subjects” but not a lot of “I’m able” or at least “willing” to discuss topics that are difficult to discuss. However, I understand that not a lot of people feel comfortable discussing such things, but I believe we should have an honest discussion without the hate and disdain for our fellow human. Let’s have a productive conversation where everyone realizes I’m right. Is that hat so hard to do??!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Where a lot of you have it wrong is that the feminine vs masculine subject is interpolated into a nationalism that assumes dialect as some sort of totality. NOW if you want to go into post-dialectic deconstruction by all means. But that only helps to convey that reality is simply a matter used to entrench a perception of narrativity that is wholly outdated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, stepee said: Where a lot of you have it wrong is that the feminine vs masculine subject is interpolated into a nationalism that assumes dialect as some sort of totality. NOW if you want to go into post-dialectic deconstruction by all means. But that only helps to convey that reality is simply a matter used to entrench a perception of narrativity that is wholly outdated. Finally someone gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 14 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: For the record, no one should ever agree with me about anything! Only because you'd find it a waste of energy to have to try to differentiate genuine agreement from cynical ass-kissing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 13 hours ago, Chris- said: Also, Wade's notion of objective/subjective is actually much more astute than any of you are giving it credit. For example, imagine there is a red ball inside of a room. You and I experience a red ball; someone who is red-green colorblind experiences what we would consider a green ball; someone who is blind experiences just a ball, and then only through their ability to touch it; someone who is blind and lacks a sense of touch only knows the ball is there if they can hear it move; people outside the room don't experience the ball; you could imagine Godzilla-sized beings, for whom the ball is no more consequential than an atom or molecule is to a person. Moreover, almost nothing about my personal experience with the ball is a priori; without external forces like language and culture, I may have no concept of things like 'red' or 'ball'. Even if you wanted to reduce the ball to measurements like circumference and the visible spectrum, those are concepts entirely based in language, which is subjective. Outside of ourselves, we more or less play the odds when we assume something is 'objective'...Granted, the odds are usually impossibly in our favor, but since you rubes want to dive this deep into it, even a margin that slight is relevant. This isn’t the objection people (including myself) were making to Wade’s comments on subjectivity. But that conversation was mostly in the other thread so you’ll have to head there. Noteably, most of the people (all?) disagreeing with Wade’s claims are epistemic skeptics. That wasn’t the disagreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 13 hours ago, Chris- said: I have a philosophy degree from the top ranked program in the entire world, so I'm eminently qualified to say you are all dumb and should shut up. Come at me bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 seems fitting for this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I have been told I speak English with an accent by several acquaintances in my life. It's a subtle type of prejudice, but prejudice all the same. I was born in NYC and raised in Jersey, I don't speak my native language with a fucking accent lol. This only happens if people learn my legal name (Jose) or they meet me with my wife, who does have a heavy accent. If I just introduce myself as Joe, I usually get people that think I am of Irish descent (which is partly true, but I digress). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 11 hours ago, stepee said: Where a lot of you have it wrong is that the feminine vs masculine subject is interpolated into a nationalism that assumes dialect as some sort of totality. NOW if you want to go into post-dialectic deconstruction by all means. But that only helps to convey that reality is simply a matter used to entrench a perception of narrativity that is wholly outdated. That's just because English and Germanic languages are inferior in that the words don't apply a feminine and masculine tense. I can assure you these arguments are uniquely very American "problems". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: seems fitting for this thread I think all of us here can agree that pewdiepie can die in a fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 8 hours ago, legend said: I think all of us here can agree that pewdiepie can die in a fire. When we use logic, it is easy to come to the objective conclusion that pewdiepie is a dumbass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/22/2018 at 4:06 PM, Chris- said: I have a philosophy degree from the top ranked program in the entire world, so I'm eminently qualified to say you are all dumb and should shut up. This gave me a good belly laugh once I realized you were serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Rev said: This gave me a good belly laugh once I realized you were serious. I’m pretty sure it’s a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, Boyle5150 said: I’m pretty sure it’s a joke Do I strike you as the type of man who’s ever not serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Rev said: This gave me a good belly laugh once I realized you were serious. This gave me a good belly laugh once I realized you were serious. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Chris- said: Do I strike you as the type of man who’s ever not serious? Subjectively speaking, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Boyle5150 said: I’m pretty sure it’s a joke Given my history with him, I doubt it, especially after his weirdly point-missing attempt at refuting everyone right after that. One can hope, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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