Bloodporne Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I'm not a big horror film fan generally speaking as I usually find them bad or predictable or boring (or some combination therein) but The Conjuring 2 was good. Not great, not bad, just a bit worse than the first film. It toes the line between ridiculous/over the top horror antics with scenes of genuine suspense and thrills. Not only does it have a 7.3 on IMDb (after 233,000 votes!) it has an 80% top critics score (6.7/10), an 80% all critics score (6.7/10), and an 81% audience review score (3.9/5 after over 50,000 votes). Those are all really good scores for any film across the board, much less a genre horror film which generally score worse on average. To be fair, it does have a 65/100 critics review score, but it also has a 7.7/10 audience review score (after 631 votes, which is pretty high for a horror film). I'm not trying to defend the film or anything as I don't care about the franchise (only seen the two mainline entries), just that the film is pretty much universally well liked so hating on it hard is actually a very minority position is all. Conjuring 2 is the Donald Trump of movies. Bafflingly popular yet still abysmally fucking terrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Conjuring 2 is the Donald Trump of movies. Bafflingly popular yet still abysmally fucking terrible. Technically Trump never won the popular vote, never cracked a 50% approval rating, and lost the electoral college the second time. He also lost the Republicans their House majority in 2018 and he lost the Republicans their Senate majority in 2020. He's historically unpopular and in the minority. So technically he was a president who won based on a minority, like with you and @Fizzzzle with The Conjuring being in the minority. I'm just saying, in terms of stats . . . Technically Trump isn't popular, he's just galvanized a very powerful base in the US (white people, particularly poor, uneducated, and/or old white people) and he's tricked them into getting them to feel empowered by him. They should know better but this base has entrenched power in this country, hence their ability to get him to win the presidency despite being in the minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Technically Trump never won the popular vote, never cracked a 50% approval rating, and lost the electoral college the second time. So technically he was a President who won based on a minority, like with you and @Fizzzzle with The Conjuring being in the minority. I'm just saying, in terms of stats . . . Stop bringing logic into this! Also I will say that I despise many really well-rated movies but can objectively see their artistic merit or general appeal. Conjuring 2 however is just so insanely inept even at being a dumb-entertaining shitty Horror flick that I truly can't understand the reviews/reactions to it being anything but pure derision. It's like when I saw Antichrist by Lars Von Trier at the theater and then read that people actually liked that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Stop bringing logic into this! Also I will say that I despise many really well-rated movies but can objectively see their artistic merit or general appeal. Conjuring 2 however is just so insanely inept even at being a dumb-entertaining shitty Horror flick that I truly can't understand the reviews/reactions to it being anything but pure derision. It's like when I saw Antichrist by Lars Von Trier at the theater and then reading that people actually liked that. I'm a fan of Antichrist but I could have easily guessed you'd hate it. I'm a big Trier fan, and Antichrist is nowhere near his best work, but it is damn atmospheric, unsettling, intense, and unnerving when watched alone in a dark room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I'm a fan of Antichrist but I could have easily guessed you'd hate it. I'm a big Trier fan, and Antichrist is nowhere near his best work, but it is damn atmosphere, unsettling, and unnerving when watched alone in a dark room. One of the few movies I ever walked out of in the theater. I think that one and Sweeney Todd did it. Weirdly enough, I liked Nymphomaniac! I also liked Riget/Kingdom by him. Totally unrelated but have you ever seen Paris, Texas? I recently rewatched that after not getting it many, many years ago and it's been on my mind ever since. (also maybe I already asked this before, I have terrible memory) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: One of the few movies I ever walked out of in the theater. I think that one and Sweeney Todd did it. Weirdly enough, I liked Nymphomaniac! I also liked Riget/Kingdom by him. Totally unrelated but have you ever seen Paris, Texas? I recently rewatched that after not getting it many, many years ago and it's been on my mind ever since. (also maybe I already asked this before, I have terrible memory) I'm not sure if you've asked before but I have seen Paris, Texas and really enjoy it! Glad you gave it a second chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I'm not sure if you've asked before but I have seen Paris, Texas and really enjoy it! Glad you gave it a second chance. I have a Movies To Watch and a separate Movies To Rewatch list actually. If there's something that caught my attention enough but I'm not sure if I liked it, it goes on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: I have a Movies To Watch and a separate Movies To Rewatch list actually. If there's something that caught my attention enough but I'm not sure if I liked it, it goes on that list. This is a very smart way to go about it. I have many lists as well for movies, games, etc. to keep it all straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 @Fizzzzle owns this section of the boards. A brand new review pops up every 20 minutes or so. It logically doesn't make any sense but I always enjoy reading what he has to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 conjuring 2 is alright. been a while since i’ve seen it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Tequila Sunrise haven't watched this movie in forever, still like it a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Honestly, should I just make a separate thread? I don't care if no one reads it. I just don't like that I hijacked this thread and I'm sure my multiple movies a night is annoying. I didn't even talk about the last two movies I watched because I feel like I'm just being annoying and one of them ended up being like 5 paragraphs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Honestly, should I just make a separate thread? I don't care if no one reads it. I just don't like that I hijacked this thread and I'm sure my multiple movies a night is annoying. I didn't even talk about the last two movies I watched because I feel like I'm just being annoying and one of them ended up being like 5 paragraphs. I think it's fine if you keep it here. I think once it branches out into a discussion is when it probably could be made into a thread. That being said no one is stopping you from making a separate thread for anything you post. Embrace your inner @SaysWho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: Honestly, should I just make a separate thread? I don't care if no one reads it. I just don't like that I hijacked this thread and I'm sure my multiple movies a night is annoying. I didn't even talk about the last two movies I watched because I feel like I'm just being annoying and one of them ended up being like 5 paragraphs. I'll up what Keyser said: make separate threads more often. It's bad enough going on the politics board and seeing nothing but mega-threads and "official" threads with weird titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 what fizzle is doing is exactly what this thread is for lol. if he wants to talk about a specific thing then sure make another thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It - 6/10 Not bad, honestly. Granted I had to pause to take care of some shit a few different times, so it wasn't the full experience, but I enjoyed it. It mostly gets away from the jump scares and goes back into the creepy territory, which is good. Initially I thought it was going to play out like a legal drama like the Exorcism of Emily Rose, which would have been tight. Alas, it didn't. Still, the narrative doesn't meander a ton like The Conjuring 2, it stays consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It - 6/10 Not bad, honestly. Granted I had to pause to take care of some shit a few different times, so it wasn't the full experience, but I enjoyed it. It mostly gets away from the jump scares and goes back into the creepy territory, which is good. Initially I thought it was going to play out like a legal drama like the Exorcism of Emily Rose, which would have been tight. Alas, it didn't. Still, the narrative doesn't meander a ton like The Conjuring 2, it stays consistent. Written by the guy who wrote Orphan (good), Red Riding Hood (really bad), Wrath of the Titans (really bad) and co-wrote your favorite The Conjuring 2 and directed by the guy who directed your favorite The Curse of La Llorona (really bad). Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said: Written by the guy who wrote Orphan (good), Red Riding Hood (really bad), Wrath of the Titans (really bad) and co-wrote your favorite The Conjuring 2 and directed by the guy who directed your favorite The Curse of La Llorona (really bad). Go figure. That seems appropriate for the franchise. You never know when they're going to squeeze out a turd or a rose. It's 50/50. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 The Neon Demon: 6/10 - Usually I'm a fan of what Nicolas Winding Refn lays down but I couldn't get into this one very much. It's certainly striking visually but nothing much else about it is very interesting. The acting is a bit wooden, except for Keanu Reeves who actually shows some emotion. Sure the end gets a bit odd but I don't think it saves the hour and a half it takes to get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 11 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: The Neon Demon: 6/10 - Usually I'm a fan of what Nicolas Winding Refn lays down but I couldn't get into this one very much. It's certainly striking visually but nothing much else about it is very interesting. The acting is a bit wooden, except for Keanu Reeves who actually shows some emotion. Sure the end gets a bit odd but I don't think it saves the hour and a half it takes to get to it. I know I'm the resident Refn apologist, but beyond the striking visuals I also thought the soundtrack was pretty awesome. I love Cliff Martinez's work in general though. The film is pretty hard to parse, as most of Refn's work is, but his unique view into heterogender norms and power dynamics fascinating and he does that a lot in this movie. It's obviously a commentary on the Hollywood/LA model/celebrity scene, with all of it's pseudo-intellectual vapidity and hollow, shallow beauty (the weird scene with the photographer/artist where he puts paint on her is one great example). I liked it a lot, but it's weird no doubt and not for most people. But Refn is a true artist - he's making exactly what he wants to make and it's for the few who are like him who enjoy this weird shit (with purpose, hopefully). That kind of creative freedom is super rare and the fact he never bent to the Hollywood system is impressive. The closest he got was flirting with it with Drive which is his most commercially accessible work (and an amazing film, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 6, 2021 Author Share Posted June 6, 2021 conjuring 3 - 2.5/5 its a good looking movie. shot composition is on point. people that direct horror movies need to have a feel for how to build tension and turn the screw and i don’t think michael chaves gets it yet. it is an improvement from la llorona but it’s annoying how this guy failed up. james wan isn’t some amazing director imo but he knows how to make a horror movie if nothing else. sometimes i think the amount of polish these mainstream horror movies have works against it. you can use the budget to make things look good, but i think it makes some people get lazy when it comes to making the horror actually effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Quiet place 2 Yep it was quiet place the sequel 7.5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, elbobo said: Quiet place 2 Yep it was quiet place the sequel 7.5/10 Should have called it a Quieter Place. Missed opportunity for franchise building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 State of Play - 5/10 Incredibly well acted by everyone involved, but it kind of gets too far up its own ass with twists by the end. Like the bad guy isn't who you think it is, only it IS who you think it is, but just not for the reason you thought it was! But the other guy is bad, too. Too many twists end up making a lot of the movie feel pointless. There are also plot threads that get dropped completely except for text in a credits scene, which shouldn't count as part of the actual movie. Also, kind of the opposite of the "40 minutes in I realize I've already seen this movie," I was almost certain I had seen this movie before, only to realize 40 minutes in that I haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Fizzzzle said: Should have called it a Quieter Place. Missed opportunity for franchise building. so you want the film coming out in 2023 to be The Quietest Place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - 1990 8/10 Extremely dark for a kid's movie but actually really well done and super fun. It brought back many great childhood memories. I saw this in the theaters and remember being in line as other kids were playing the turtles arcade game. As silly as the premise is, they took it seriously for the most part and I feel it's the best Ninja Turtle movie ever made. It's very violent with swearing so it was shocking that it was made for kids. Different era I guess. I just finished it and it was a great time. The story and how they handled the silly parts of how they became Mutant turtles is done well enough. If you never saw this, I highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Been binge watching "Hunter" I'm a sucker for old cop shows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, best3444 said: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - 1990 8/10 Extremely dark for a kid's movie but actually really well done and super fun. It brought back many great childhood memories. I saw this in the theaters and remember being in line as other kids were playing the turtles arcade game. As silly as the premise is, they took it seriously for the most part and I feel it's the best Ninja Turtle movie ever made. It's very violent with swearing so it was shocking that it was made for kids. Different era I guess. I just finished it and it was a great time. The story and how they handled the silly parts of how they became Mutant turtles is done well enough. If you never saw this, I highly recommend it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 1 hour ago, EternallDarkness said: so you want the film coming out in 2023 to be The Quietest Place? Ideally, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 56 minutes ago, best3444 said: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - 1990 8/10 Extremely dark for a kid's movie but actually really well done and super fun. It brought back many great childhood memories. I saw this in the theaters and remember being in line as other kids were playing the turtles arcade game. As silly as the premise is, they took it seriously for the most part and I feel it's the best Ninja Turtle movie ever made. It's very violent with swearing so it was shocking that it was made for kids. Different era I guess. I just finished it and it was a great time. The story and how they handled the silly parts of how they became Mutant turtles is done well enough. If you never saw this, I highly recommend it. I still remember my dad taking me and my friend to see it as a kid. We sat in the very front row and enjoyed the hell out of it, even my dad. . . . until we came out and was told we could had a better seat across the way in the other theatre it was also playing in (which I now now was a canceled show of another movie and a tandem run single film from one theatre to the next) Anyways they shot the movie using much of the original comic scenes. Seth Rogen is rebooting the series and has said that he wants to find some way to hopefully go back to the original costume fighting movie form. Some hybrid of that would be amazing to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 41 minutes ago, silentbob said: I still remember my dad taking me and my friend to see it as a kid. We sat in the very front row and enjoyed the hell out of it, even my dad. . . . until we came out and was told we could had a better seat across the way in the other theatre it was also playing in (which I now now was a canceled show of another movie and a tandem run single film from one theatre to the next) Anyways they shot the movie using much of the original comic scenes. Seth Rogen is rebooting the series and has said that he wants to find some way to hopefully go back to the original costume fighting movie form. Some hybrid of that would be amazing to see. Yea, I read Rogan is working on a turtles movie set to release in 2023. Fully CGI though. Who knows, it could turn out good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 It (2017) - 9/10 Fuck me, now that was horror done right. I wish Stan, the sick kid, and potty mouth got fleshed out more, but it turns out horror movies are a lot more creepy when you actually have characters to root for/against. I might have even given it a 10 if they didn't do the sPoOoKy dutch angle zoom thing a bunch of times (it pulls me right out of the movie every single time) or a couple things with Beverly's character. It's still a fucking classic, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: It (2017) - 9/10 Fuck me, now that was horror done right. I wish Stan, the sick kid, and potty mouth got fleshed out more, but it turns out horror movies are a lot more creepy when you actually have characters to root for/against. I might have even given it a 10 if they didn't do the sPoOoKy dutch angle zoom thing a bunch of times (it pulls me right out of the movie every single time) or a couple things with Beverly's character. It's still a fucking classic, though. I’m not a big horror fan either but I did enjoy this first part a lot. The whole garage scene with the slideshow happening is amazingly tense/scary (especially with Atmos sound) Just need 3 hours too finish the movie with Part II 4K disc still somewhere in my collection. Although I was told it isn’t nearly as good, because things become weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 @Fizzzzle last week: I'm a wuss I don't watch horror @Fizzzzle this week: I've watched 10 horror movies in a row and this movie is how you do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: @Fizzzzle last week: I'm a wuss I don't watch horror @Fizzzzle this week: I've watched 10 horror movies in a row and this movie is how you do it! People have called me many things, consistent is not one of them. I don't know, I have seen a lot of horror movies, they're just not generally what I choose to watch. Don't know what's gotten into me this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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