Jason Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 LOL, classic Trollpez: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Haley 2020 confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Yeah, yeah - could be Haley too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: The New York Times should burn the source (unless it's Mattis). why does the wedding bomber get a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Of course, this anonymous NYT op-ed has TOTALLY knocked the Woodward book of the radar. Bob and the WaPo must be pissed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 @CayceG I did call someone we've never heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: @CayceG I did call someone we've never heard of. If so, why would the speechwriter put something so readily traceable to the VP's staff in the text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: If so, why would the speechwriter put something so readily traceable to the VP's staff in the text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: If so, why would the speechwriter put something so readily traceable to the VP's staff in the text? Why would someone in the administration of high-IQ geniuses do something not becoming of someone with a high IQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 The NYT is fucking trash. They should burn the source if they're a real journalism outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, CayceG said: The NYT is fucking trash. They should burn the source if they're a real journalism outlet. But why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 This is normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: But why? This is what I wrote to the NYT in their feedback portal that was linked in the op-ed: Quote What in God's name possessed you to publish this anonymously? The role of the press is to hold power accountable. The publication of this op-ed does not further your mission. It only seeks to preemptively rehabilitate the author as if they are doing the right thing in the moment. In reality, they are rolling over and cowardly penning this missive while still operating the machine, even if they are throwing sand between the gears. This perspective you are delivering is self-serving to the author and you are hiding behind a facade of journalistic integrity of your own design. It is not the true manifestation of journalistic integrity. Please explain to your readers and to the American public why you felt the need to publish this anonymously rather than conform to the mission of journalists in this country and require the author take ownership of their words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, CayceG said: This is what I wrote to the NYT in their feedback portal that was linked in the op-ed: Plus the author mentions the 25th, the public interest vastly outweighs the author's job (unless Mattis). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 All this talk of journalistic integrity... Really this whole thing is just one big soap opera anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Plus the author mentions the 25th, the public interest vastly outweighs the author's job (unless Mattis). Or Pence, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Or Pence, really. Trump can't fire Pence, if it's Pence it's extra spineless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Does the word "Senior" carry a tangible meaning here? Can they just call anyone they feel is important enough "Senior" or are we looking at a list of like 20 people here? At the very least, we should be able to show the NYT a list of 20-30 names and get them to confirm whether or not the author is one of the people on the list? What does "Senior" mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, Jwheel86 said: Trump can't fire Pence, if it's Pence it's extra spineless. The President can demand a resignation letter though from the VP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: The President can demand a resignation letter though from the VP. He can demand that until his thumbs break tweeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: The President can demand a resignation letter though from the VP. He would have to ask mother if it’s ok first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: @legend isn't there some sort of machine learning thing that can give an estimate of who wrote this trash based on previous writings? I mean, not that anyone in this administration is particularly well written, but would it be possible? Given sufficient previously written text from the candidate set, it could probably be done with reasonable accuracy. (And if no one has has done this application before, it's super low hanging fruit. I feel pretty confident I know how I would do it and it would just be matter of getting training data and some hyperparameter search.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 52 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: It's so much better in this format: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 No fascism here, calling this a matter of national security! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: He knows that he's on twitter dot com and not google dot com, does he not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: He knows that he's on twitter dot com and not google dot com, does he not? covfefe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Why is it I'm imagining the end of Fahrenheit 451 where they run down some scapegoat with dogs and shoot him on live TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Totally normal thing all presidencies go through. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-sleeper-cells-have-awoken-trump-and-aides-shaken-by-resistance-op-ed/2018/09/05/ecdf423c-b14b-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.cc2d4f475932 The phrase, “The sleeper cells have awoken,” circulated on text messages among aides and outside allies. “It’s like the horror movies when everyone realizes the call is coming from inside the house,” said one former White House official in close contact with former co-workers. The president was already feeling especially vulnerable — and a deep “sense of paranoia,” in the words of one confidant — in the wake of his devastating portrayal in Woodward’s book. He was upset that so many in his orbit seemed to have spoken with the veteran Washington Post investigative journalist, and had begun peppering staffers with questions about who Woodward’s sources were. Trump already felt that he had a dwindling circle of people who he could trust, a senior administration official said. According to one Trump friend, he fretted after Wednesday’s op-ed that he could only trust his children. Both inside the White House and in Trump’s broader orbit, aides and confidants scrambled to identify the anonymous official, windmilling in all directions; within just hours of publication, they privately offered up roughly a dozen different theories and suggested traitors. One aide, for example, suggested a staffer seeking glory and secretly hoping to get caught, while another mused that the official was likely a low-level staffer in a peripheral agency. Others wondered aloud just what constituted a “senior official in the Trump administration.” Brinkley said the most analogous example of disloyalty and advisers disregarding the president’s wishes was in Richard Nixon’s final year as president. He explained that Nixon would “bark crazy orders” to aides that they intentionally disregarded. “You’d have to go back to Hans Christian Andersen, ‘The Emperor Has No Clothes,’ to see this syndrome where the president’s reality happens to be so different from his own senior advisers,” Brinkley said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Sleeper cells lol lordy these people are nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Chadatog said: Why is it I'm imagining the end of Fahrenheit 451 where they run down some scapegoat with dogs and shoot him on live TV Donald Trump is imagining that, too. And he hasn't even read Farenheit 451. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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