Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I use the German pronunciation for his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Nokra said: As a speaker of German, I can say that at least as far as the German name goes, Fox News is actually pronouncing it more correctly. But of course in the end I suppose it is pretty much up to Mueller himself how he wants to pronounce it. I've heard Preet Bharara pronounce it "Muller" so I'm assuming that's how Mueller pronounces it. But yeah I have a hard time not using the German pronunciation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 Pronouncing it Muller ties him to David Duchovny, who is cool, thereby making Mueller cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Pronouncing it Muller ties him to David Duchovny, who is cool, thereby making Mueller cool. Get Mueller a fez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 ‘Individual 1’: Trump emerges as a central subject of Mueller probe Quote In two major developments this week, President Trump has been labeled in the parlance of criminal investigations as a major subject of interest, complete with an opaque legal code name: “Individual 1.” New evidence from two separate fronts of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation casts fresh doubts on Trump’s version of key events involving Russia, signaling potential political and legal peril for the president. Investigators have now publicly cast Trump as a central figure of their probe into whether Trump’s campaign conspired with the Russian government during the 2016 campaign. Together, the documents show investigators have evidence that Trump was in close contact with his lieutenants as they made outreach to both Russia and WikiLeaks — and that they tried to conceal the extent of their activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Nokra said: As a speaker of German, I can say that at least as far as the German name goes, Fox News is actually pronouncing it more correctly. But of course in the end I suppose it is pretty much up to Mueller himself how he wants to pronounce it. I know three families that have that same name and they all pronounce it differently. 1. Mull-er 2. Mew-ler 3. Moo-lehr How do you pronounce it in German? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: How do you pronounce it in German? Mullerschlachthauptwerkbahnengelschaft 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, SFLUFAN said: Mullershcalthauptwerkbahnengleschaft You dropped your oberkleinkinhefeweizenbratwustfeld. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: I use the German pronunciation for his name. "Mew-ller"? as in "Bew-ller"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, RedSoxFan9 said: I'm guessing Haberman wrote that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: "Mew-ller"? as in "Bew-ller"? Jawohl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: I'm guessing Haberman wrote that? Nope, I guess it required more than just talking to Trump. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: "Uh hey this is John Barron head of the FBI yeah we've been doing a lot of looking and Donald Trump didn't work with Russia and also has a totally normal and respectable looking wang so yeah you can go ahead and stop looking at Russia stuff and if you need any follow-up you can email me at donaldtrump@gmail.com." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Honestly as bad as the Trump admin has been, the MSM (I can't believe I said that and am throwing up a little in my mouth ) hasn't been much better which is why so many Americans of all stripes distrust it. Not a lot of Edgar R. Murrows out there these days. 24 Hour news channels should be banned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 39 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I know three families that have that same name and they all pronounce it differently. 1. Mull-er 2. Mew-ler 3. Moo-lehr How do you pronounce it in German? In German, there's three umlauted characters: ä, ö, and ü. When you don't have access to a keyboard with an umlaut key, it's standard to write them as ae, oe, and ue. "Muller" isn't quite right but IMO it's closer than "Mew-ler" (I've always had a miserable time pronouncing ü correctly btw). Agree, @Nokra? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: More on the beautiful nyt article https://splinternews.com/the-new-york-times-backtracks-on-one-of-its-most-infamo-1826087627 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I know three families that have that same name and they all pronounce it differently. 1. Mull-er 2. Mew-ler 3. Moo-lehr How do you pronounce it in German? It's kind of hard to write phonetically because in English we don't even have the sound that the letter ü makes, as you can probably hear in the video @Jason posted. The best I can approximate it is to suggest you say the word "Mooler" (where moo rhymes with brew) but with a) an open throat and b) your lips in the same position as they would be to blow across a bottle opening or to play the flute. As I said, kind of difficult to describe. Or you can hear the name Müller here in this video, which is talking about difficult to pronounce names in the soccer world. I linked it to 20 seconds, right before they mention Thomas Müller (and they repeat his name again at the 58 second mark): But yeah like Jason said, the ä,ö,and ü words are the most difficult to pronounce for native English speakers because we didn't grow up making those noises. At least with ß it basically just makes the same sound as "ss", and in fact many older words are now spelled with this way, completely dropping the ß in favor of 2x 's'. Anyway, even after living in Germany for nearly 8 years and speaking German frequently (my girlfriend is German and we pretty much only speak German), I still have trouble not letting my American accent shine through sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 40 minutes ago, Jason said: 2014! Just to be clear, if this is accurate than Donald Trump himself has confirmed in public that his son committed perjury. With Trump's current line on Trump Moscow, that strongly suggests Trump himself gave up the pretense and answered Mueller truthfully on the timing of that deal(otherwise, why deny it under oath, and then admit it in public?) Which means that we're not just talking about Trump shooting off in front of a mic. It means Trump and Jr. respective answers, under oath, likely contradict one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Quote The key fact of the article — that the F.B.I. had opened a broad investigation into possible links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign — was published in the 10th paragraph. I appreciate the NYT for not making that the headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Quote Another source said that after the April 2018 FBI raid on Cohen's office and home, people close to the President assured Cohen that Trump would take care of him. And Cohen believed that meant that the President would offer him a pardon if he stayed on message. It is unclear who specifically reached out to Cohen. https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/30/politics/michael-cohen-pardon-expectation-donald-trump/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 16 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Lightly committed treason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: Lightly committed treason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: It bears repeating: Charges from the NYAG against anyone in the Trump organization are essentially pardon proof. And just to be safe, I'm sure the charges that the AG will eventually hand down will not be similar/the same as federal charges to ensure Trump can't claim some sort of double jeopardy violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 13 hours ago, 2user1cup said: Lightly committed treason You know, this reminds me when he was grilled on supporting the Iraq War at the beginning. "When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, first time anyone's asked me that, I said, very lightly, I don't know, maybe, who knows?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: You know, this reminds me when he was grilled on supporting the Iraq War at the beginning. "When I did an interview with Howard Stern, very lightly, first time anyone's asked me that, I said, very lightly, I don't know, maybe, who knows?" How do conservatives stand someone who doesn't ever take responsibility, it drives me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: How do conservatives stand someone who doesn't ever take responsibility, it drives me nuts. The same people that justify their actions and beliefs through a work of vague fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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