TheGreatGamble Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 6:38 PM, Anathema- said: Well, the overt looting of the country would stop; along with the overt demagoguery, incitement to violence,and aggressively stacking the federal agencies with people designed to dismantle them... Assuming pence isn't also a Russian agent. You are foolish if you think Trump is a Russian asset. A willing dupe, sure. Not an asset though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: A willing dupe, sure. Not an asset though. Explain to me what this difference is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 37 minutes ago, CayceG said: Explain to me what this difference is. There is no difference. Useful idiots are still assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, CayceG said: Explain to me what this difference is. A real asset doesnt make it so obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 hours ago, CayceG said: Explain to me what this difference is. Semantics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 We all know this. I want to hear what GambleGuy here thinks the difference is. Because if you're fucking pigs as a funny joke or because it's ironic or whatever, you're still a pig fucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, CayceG said: We all know this. I want to hear what GambleGuy here thinks the difference is. Because if you're fucking pigs as a funny joke or because it's ironic or whatever, you're still a pig fucker. I believe he has benefitted Russia unwittingly. The idiot thinks he's an actual genius. to be an asset, I feel he'd have to be doing it willingly. I dont believe he's working with Russia, just hat he's an idiot who makes shit up as he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: I believe he has benefitted Russia unwittingly. The idiot thinks he's an actual genius. to be an asset, I feel he'd have to be doing it willingly. I dont believe he's working with Russia, just hat he's an idiot who makes shit up as he goes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: I believe he has benefitted Russia unwittingly. The idiot thinks he's an actual genius. to be an asset, I feel he'd have to be doing it willingly. I dont believe he's working with Russia, just hat he's an idiot who makes shit up as he goes. Useful Idiot is the term that describes this. And being an asset means that you bring benefit to the other party. Your intention to do so, notwithstanding. I mean, look literally no further than the INF treaty. Trump's action of pulling out of the treaty directly benefited Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 If he was knowingly a Russian asset he should be removed from the presidency and spend the rest of his life in jail. If he was an unwitting asset he should be removed from the presidency and spend a life in jail for all the other financial and tax crimes he's committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 He's been spouting Russian propaganda since his first visit there in the 80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mclumber1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Both of those stories are quite important, I think. For the Rosenstein story, I wonder if when Barr was fully briefed on the Mueller investigation, he was like "lol, nope. This is all your's Rod!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Both of those stories are quite important, I think. For the Rosenstein story, I wonder if when Barr was fully briefed on the Mueller investigation, he was like "lol, nope. This is all your's Rod!". Did any of the "Rosenstein is leaving soon" news every come directly out of his own mouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Just now, Jason said: Did any of the "Rosenstein is leaving soon" news every come directly out of his own mouth? I think so. Or at least that's how I remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I am getting the vibe that there is big stuff going on behind the scenes right now. Trump's weekend tantrum, his team's behind the scene talk of evoking privilege, last week's House vote to release the report and Trump's Tweet jumping on board. I don't know if Trump has seen it himself, or he's got a loyalist giving him Cliff Notes. I don't know if it's a final report or a big speaking indictment. But I think Trump has been made aware of something big Mueller has in the barrel. That House vote last week and Trump taking credit for Republicans joining in really reminded me of those numerous times Trump said he was totally pysched yo fo ab interview with Mueller. He says it right before he does the opposite. Edit: The more I think on it, I think one or more of the progeny(or progeny-in-law) is goan git indicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Edit: The more I think on it, I think one or more of the progeny(or progeny-in-law) is goan git indicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Ive been saying the same to everyone I know for a long time now. Liberals around here acually think the Mueller report will put Trump in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: @Kal-El814is ready for weeks of “I told you so”ing the CEB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Dems are trying to manage expectations, just like Trump is by setting the standard that anything short of a one on one call between him and Putin discussing collusion is a nothing burger. By setting up the low bar that many have that there may not be a report at all, that there may not be bombshells, etc it gives them more room to rightfully make a big deal about it when Mueller reports/indicts other wrong doing. Put simply, Trump wants to do a victory lap if "all" Mueller does is indict Jr., Kush, the Trump campaign, the Trump inauguration, and Barron. Dems want to be able to say, "I wasn't expecting Mueller to indict all these people an organizations in Trump's inner circle. This is HUGE." On one hand, Americans should be ashamed that they allowed the frog to to boiled that they see the indictments so far, much less any incoming, as a nothingburger. On the other hand, Trump always had a bit of a built-in advantage because Mueller wasn't going to indict him almost no matter what, which leaves Trump an opening to claim victory if he set the bar low enough. 13 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: Ive been saying the same to everyone I know for a long time now. Liberals around here acually think the Mueller report will put Trump in prison. Case in point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: Ive been saying the same to everyone I know for a long time now. Liberals around here acually think the Mueller report will put Trump in prison. msnbc is poisoning the libs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: Ive been saying the same to everyone I know for a long time now. Liberals around here acually think the Mueller report will put Trump in prison. Literally no one thinks this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I had a fantasy about a year or more ago that it might get him impeached, but at this point the best result is that it severely damages his chances of winning re-election. Which at this point I will accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 ah yes its always good when "lawyers" uses wikipedia as references for their defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Literally no one thinks this. I’ve had conversations with people who believe it. I don’t think it is wide spread though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Firewithin said: ah yes its always good when "lawyers" uses wikipedia as references for their defense And then don't even cite said Wikipedia article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I'd say I've been impressed with how much the investigations have accomplished so far. Anyone expecting Trump in handcuffs being carted off to prison aren't playing the odds, but I think all of us should rightly be excited with everything that's already happened, and if more is to come, regardless of how much more, that's an absolute in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, osxmatt said: What excerpt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, sblfilms said: @Kal-El814is ready for weeks of “I told you so”ing the CEB. I’d get no kick from that particular champagne. Folks circling Trump’s drain ultimately ending up in the sewer is good stuff, the notion that this would ever hit Trump itself always felt like a long shot, which is why I eye roll’d at the feels abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 32 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Literally no one thinks this. I think you better check out social media, and your local hangouts. Many think the mueller report is the end of trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Literally no one thinks this. I don’t know that this is practically true? Plenty of people seem to think that Mueller’s report would provide proof of collusion with Russia and / or meaningful campaign finance violations. The outcome of that might not be actual prison time, but people haven’t been stroking their dicks over this for so long because their expectations are measured and reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I’d get no kick from that particular champagne. Folks circling Trump’s drain ultimately ending up in the sewer is good stuff, the notion that this would ever hit Trump itself always felt like a long shot, which is why I eye roll’d at the feels abuse. It should feel good to see guys like my avatar behind bars. I've felt good every indictment and I stand by all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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