Guest Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: He's not a principled man. I suppose “keeping power” and “feeling important” could be considered principles by some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: I don’t think that is true. There are areas in which the actions of specific states (California in particular) have ramifications on the rest of the country simply due to the size of the California economy and the preeminence of the state in crucial industries. Same with states like Texas. Their educational decisions specifically regarding textbooks have ramifications for the whole country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: After the FBI investigation I became slightly less confident Murkowski would be a no because she seemed to be treating it as adequate cover like Collins and Flake. But this is the vote before the final vote, right? If Collins goes no, couldn't Manchin still switch for the final vote if it becomes clear he is the deciding vote? How fucking tragic if both female GOPers swing no, and Kavanaugh still gets confirmed thanks to one defecting Democratic man. That would look both morally wrong and be horrible for the party in November. With one vote, totally kill the impression that one party is for women and the other isn't. It's been pretty clear to me the last couple of days that she was gonna be a NO. She's hearing it from her voters back home and I saw a piece on the news last night we're a group of female lawyers from her state met with her and basically said after the meeting that they were certain she was gonna vote no based on how the meeting went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I can't wait until the next time Flake puts on his performance and the media buys it up. "Swing vote." "Voice of reason." "Moderate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I can't wait until the next time Flake puts on his performance and the media buys it up. "Swing vote." "Voice of reason." "Moderate." not going to be a lot of opportunities left, he is not running for reelection in November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Can we stop doing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: To a certain extent, it's already started with so-called "sanctuary city" municipalities refusing to share immigration information on those in detention with ICE, but this a pretty insignificant issue. As I mentioned, a definite acceleration would occur if California rejects a Supreme Court ruling declaring its CAFE standards to be unconstitutional. That could be a catalyst for other states to engage in both progressive and regressive forms of rejectionism of both past (homosexual marriage) and future (net neutrality) rulings and laws that they disagree with. In regard to China, I see no evidence that Beijing has any real desire to fulfill the "global arbiter" role that the United States assumed post-WWII. China knows that role is both expensive monetarily and fraught with political risk, so the juice to be obtained from it ain't really worth the squeeze. Beijing will certainly look out for its interests (hence why they are aggressively pursuing a blue water navy and the "Belt and Road" initiative), but they're not gonna be invading/occupying places for...reasons. I agree that China doesn't want to be the global arbiter, but I think they want to advance their interests in the West and elsewhere as much as possible, and without a United States, it would be a lot easier for them to step on everyone else. As for it already starting, I think it doesn't really give a timetable. Anyone can see the United States is going to fall apart without giving a specific timeline. If it has started already, how long before it's done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Massdriver said: As for it already starting, I think it doesn't really give a timetable. Anyone can see the United States is going to fall apart without giving a specific timeline. If it has started already, how long before it's done? Why is a timeline necessary anyway? It's enough to know that the process has already begun at a low level and there are factors on the immediate horizon that will influence its pace. Much like pornography, you will know it's "done" when you see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Collins is about to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Sounds like a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (((DARK MONEY))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 She's going all-in on the conspiracy garbage. Wow, good thing that Feinstein covered the Ford stuff up until the last week, hey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: Not enough of these to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 If I had superpowers I would definitely (probably) kill many American politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If I had superpowers I would definitely (probably) kill many American politicians. I want to wish so many people into the cornfield. So many fucking people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I wonder what it feels like to be one of the FBI agents that was a part of that "investigation." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just now, CitizenVectron said: I wonder what it feels like to be one of the FBI agents that was a part of that "investigation." "Just shakin' the bushes boss!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I wonder what it feels like to be one of the FBI agents that was a part of that "investigation." Just doing their job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, 2user1cup said: Just doing their job I meant more knowing that you aren't being allowed to actually do your job and that you are being paraded around for show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Still looking for Collins to perform a plot twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Selling out your own gender to own the libs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: I meant more knowing that you aren't being allowed to actually do your job and that you are being paraded around for show. Just doing the job that was asked, I don't understand the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, 2user1cup said: Just doing the job that was asked, I don't understand the question Well if you were asking to do your job but knew that the outcome was already predetermined, how would you feel? Being a political pawn with no control isn't a good feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Can we finally dispel the nonsense that there are moderate Republicans? The whole party is insane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Has Flake spoken yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Well if you were asking to do your job but knew that the outcome was already predetermined, how would you feel? Being a political pawn with no control isn't a good feeling. Look for a new job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just now, CayceG said: Fuck it why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, CayceG said: No surprise now that the outcome is locked in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, CayceG said: I mean we lost anyway. Might as well let him give himself cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Well, I'm sure this will help the GOP in the midterms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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