Jason Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Because Flake, Murkowski and maybe Collins forced his and McConnell's hands. Based on what I've been hearing, they basically told McConnell that if he proceeded with a floor vote without and investigation, they would either withhold their votes or vote no. McConnell and Graham basically told Trump he had no choice. Plus I think Trump is starting to tire of Kavanaugh and is making the calculation that this guy is turning out to be more trouble than he's worth when Trump could easily just pick another judge on his list. I don't think any of these folks were expecting this to be such a debacle. Turtle did tell Trump Kavanaugh was the only one he was worried about getting through. Which, by the way, seems like a hugely compelling piece of evidence against Kavanaugh to me. Given what we know about Kavanaugh know, hwy would Turtle have expressed concern about getting Kavanaugh specifically confirmed if he didn't know that Kavanaugh's done something really bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bacon said: OK, so why are we so sure he raped? You should probably pay attention to the story before saying dumb shit like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Turtle did tell Trump Kavanaugh was the only one he was worried about getting through. Which, by the way, seems like a hugely compelling piece of evidence against Kavanaugh to me. Given what we know about Kavanaugh know, hwy would Turtle have expressed concern about getting Kavanaugh specifically confirmed if he didn't know that Kavanaugh's done something really bad? Did he really? When was this reported? and if that's true why in GOD'S NAME WOULD TRUMP PICK THIS GUY???? I don't remember Gorsuch having such a hard time getting confirmed. Trump is already souring on the guy and is signaling that he's not above pulling the nomination. We all know Trump has NO problem throwing folks under the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: why in GOD'S NAME WOULD TRUMP PICK THIS GUY???? Because of his expansive views on presidential immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 oh and what happens if we find out Kavanaugh perjured himself? Then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: oh and what happens if we find out Kavanaugh perjured himself? Then what? We already did I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: Because of his expansive views on presidential immunity. Is he the only one on the list with those views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, Jose said: We already did I thought. Did we? Has that been officially determined or just on the internet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: oh and what happens if we find out Kavanaugh perjured himself? Then what? See what @sblfilms stated earlier when the notion of perjury came up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: Is he the only one on the list with those views? I really don't know, but the original discussion indicated that his views were expansive even by the standards of conservative jurists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Do I personally think he raped anyone? I don't know. Do I think he was a frat boy douche that did douchy things and may have done some of the things that are being alleged? Absolutely. Is anyone accusing him of actual rape? Oh, I thought people were. It just really feels like people are so sure he is guilty, or want him to be guilty. IDK. 2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: You should probably pay attention to the story before saying dumb shit like this. Can you fuck off? Have I done something extraordinarily awful to you that I am oblivious to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, Bacon said: Oh, I thought people were. It just really feels like people are so sure he is guilty, or want him to be guilty. IDK. Can you fuck off? Have I done something extraordinarily awful to you that I am oblivious to? You said something stupid. You clearly haven't been following the story. I called you out on that. Don't take it so personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said: You said something stupid. You clearly haven't been following the story. I called you out on that. Don't take it so personal. Ah, I figured as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Bacon said: Oh, I thought people were. It just really feels like people are so sure he is guilty, or want him to be guilty. IDK. Can you fuck off? Have I done something extraordinarily awful to you that I am oblivious to? We can err on the side of caution and not put him on the Supreme Court for a lifetime appointment, no? This is a fucking job interview, not a criminal trial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: See what @sblfilms stated earlier when the notion of perjury came up. Saying you've "never been blackout drunk, and have only fallen asleep" when other witnesses can say that they HAVE seen you blackout drunk is a provable lie and not "a matter of perspective". That's different than him saying what he thought "boofing", "Devils triangle" and "Renata Alumnus" meant. Be REAL bad if some old arrest records were to pop up or sealed juvie documents. 4 minutes ago, Bacon said: Oh, I thought people were. It just really feels like people are so sure he is guilty, or want him to be guilty. IDK. I don't want him to be guilty... he's just not coming across as innocent as he claims to be. Especially when he's playing blatant word games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: We can err on the side of caution and not put him on the Supreme Court for a lifetime appointment, no? This is a fucking job interview, not a criminal trial. The way he's handled himself in response to everything also makes it pretty clear that he's a terrible choice for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Saying you've "never been blackout drunk, and have only fallen asleep" when other witnesses can say that they HAVE seen you blackout drunk is a provable lie and not "a matter of perspective". How does one prove another person had a memory lapse due to excessive drinking when the person who was supposedly the subject of the blackout says it didn't happen. Memory lapses are self-reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 This is a far more interesting and substantive thing and the thread is very small (one witness). If "Squi" testifies that Kavanaugh certainly knew Ford then that's a significant lie made under oath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bacon said: Oh, I thought people were. It just really feels like people are so sure he is guilty, or want him to be guilty. IDK. Can you fuck off? Have I done something extraordinarily awful to you that I am oblivious to? CastlevaniaNut has gone kosher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, Spawn_of_Apathy said: CastlevaniaNut has gone kosher. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. It means you don't like @Bacon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: It means you don't like @Bacon I concede my failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Anathema- said: This is a far more interesting and substantive thing and the thread is very small (one witness). If "Squi" testifies that Kavanaugh certainly knew Ford then that's a significant lie made under oath. This is why an impartial FBI investigation, even if it's short, is a nightmare for the GOP. Any number of these small details could be damning, and it's looking like the GOP is not going to be in a position to shield Brett from it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: It means you don't like @Bacon I do wonder if it is really just my ignorance that makes her despise me or something more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: I do wonder if it is really just my ignorance that makes her despise me or something more. u need to get woke brah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: I do wonder if it is really just my ignorance that makes her despise me or something more. I don't despise you, you're making it way too personal. But ignorance does annoy me. I deal with so much of it from family, friends, coworkers, etc. I expect people to educate themselves a little before commenting like they know it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I don't despise you, you're making it way too personal. But ignorance does annoy me. I deal with so much of it from family, friends, coworkers, etc. I expect people to educate themselves a little before commenting like they know it all. I dunno, are you SURE there's nothing to be said for the Scape approach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bacon said: I do wonder if it is really just my ignorance that makes her despise me or something more. Come correct. Nobody likes undercooked @Bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I wonder if it's my racism why I have all white friends? Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bacon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I don't despise you, you're making it way too personal. I don't see how am I supposed to take in anyway but personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 28, 2018 Author Share Posted September 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, 2user1cup said: I wonder if it's my racism why I have all white friends? Sad. All of this drama over what overly-privileged honkies did or did not do to each other is getting to be goddamned tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 What does everyone think if the FBI finds no credible evidence to support any of the sexual assault claims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Massdriver said: What does everyone think if the FBI finds no credible evidence to support any of the sexual assault claims? Then it would be fair to confirm him, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: What does everyone think if the FBI finds no credible evidence to support any of the sexual assault claims? I think her testimony qualifies as credible enough evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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