Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Amazon should have picked an area with absolutely no population and built an entire city/civilization themselves. Maybe the desert in California or the wastelands Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Amazon should have picked an area with absolutely no population and built an entire city/civilization themselves. Maybe the desert in California or the wastelands Michigan. Would have been an interesting experiment. See who they could get to move out there and how their work compares. Like Hank Scorpio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 11 hours ago, mclumber1 said: Amazon should have picked an area with absolutely no population and built an entire city/civilization themselves. Maybe the desert in California or the wastelands Michigan. That's what Epcot center was gonna be before Disney died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The problem with attempting to unionize low or no skill labor is that you are easily replaceable. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the employees get fired and replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: The problem with attempting to unionize low or no skill labor is that you are easily replaceable. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the employees get fired and replaced. For totally unrelated reasons, of course, but still for violations of company policy. And that's the point of unionization: strength in numbers. And firing them all should cost Amazon hq2 in NYC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: For totally unrelated reasons, of course, but still for violations of company policy. And that's the point of unionization: strength in numbers. And firing them all should cost Amazon hq2 in NYC Amazon Cuomo ain't giving it up doe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jason said: Amazon Cuomo ain't giving it up doe. Should. It won't, but it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Good for the workers. I'm fine with paying more money if it means better conditions for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Facing opposition, Amazon reconsiders NY headquarters site, two officials sayhttps://wapo.st/2SAFae1 Call the bluff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 Niiiiiice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 More money for Amazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Haha fuck those LIC yuppies that thought they hit it big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao 2.0 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Man, as a New Yorker of utmost pragmatism (except when I'm hungry or someone is walking slow or standing on the left side of the escalator), I've had mixed feelings on this thing all along. The Fight The Power side of me of course defaults to "FUCK AMAZON AND FUCK THIS SHIT" but also, you know, we're basically a world capital and it makes sense to have these kinds of representatives of major corporations based in our city and paying our taxes and blah blah blah. And while 3 billion is a ridiculous amount of subsidies, half of that it would have been given to any other business, and I'm aware that even while it's shitty, it's not a giveaway if we're talking about credits on money we never even had in the first place. But you know what? After much consideration I'm going back to fuck Amazon and this proposal. The strong arm-bullshit just offends me on a personal level, and I think they're really shooting themselves in the foot with this new "Well maybe we'll take our ball and go home" tactic. They're sorely underestimating how stubborn New Yorkers are on the whole when it comes to thinking we're being conned or someone from outside of here can strong-arm us. Hell, we shoot ourselves in the feet regularly out of a misplaced sense of pride, this would be a drop in the bucket. But personal feelings aside, I just don't see this as a net gain for the city. Out of 25-30,000 supposed new jobs, so far their big PR outreach has been to guarantee twenty-five call-center jobs to NYCHA residents? Basically the total number of players in a single Knicks/Nets game? You know damn well the vast majority of these alleged $150,000/year jobs are not going to NYC residents. New York City already generated 72,000 new jobs last year organically, jobs that tend to be by and for New Yorkers, and spread throughout the city so they're not over-concentrated and creating a "company neighborhood" and pushing long-time residents out. So why should we be falling all over ourselves for a one-time influx of a fraction more? Nothing against cities that could use this kind of quick boost of employment -- take it and run, Virginia -- but frankly, we don't need it and we don't have the infrastructure or space to make it happen. LIC has already been completely changed by rezoning in recent years and the condo-'splosion along the waterfront, but run-of-the-mill gentrifying and cost-of-living increases aside, still remains a neighborhood. After spending a week-plus in Seattle last year for a work thing, I gotta say, I'm terrified of the idea of LIC turning into South Lake Union or whatever Amazon has rebranded their now-proprietary neighborhood. If they really want to be in the NY metro-area, go build a proper campus in Westchester where you have space and belong, and let your employees take the MNR down for the weekends to spend their money (or reverse commute). Or Long Island, and use a piece of your windfall to help pay to finish East Side Access and basically build yourselves a convenient little rail line your employees can take over. But this waterfront nonsense in a dense, already overcrowded area that can't absorb anymore is a ridiculous vanity project and New Yorkers aren't getting nearly enough of a benefit for some bullshit that, frankly, we're doing just fine without. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 12/12/2018 at 8:45 AM, mclumber1 said: The problem with attempting to unionize low or no skill labor is that you are easily replaceable. I wouldn't be surprised if all of the employees get fired and replaced. On 12/12/2018 at 8:49 AM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: For totally unrelated reasons, of course, but still for violations of company policy. And that's the point of unionization: strength in numbers. And firing them all should cost Amazon hq2 in NYC In Texas you can get fired for attempting to unionize. They do not need any other reason. Walmart will fire an entire store, including management, and restaff it. Even close the location temporarily if they need to. It all depends on state labor laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 2/8/2019 at 11:43 AM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Facing opposition, Amazon reconsiders NY headquarters site, two officials sayhttps://wapo.st/2SAFae1 Call the bluff Put the HQ where Bezos wants to go anyway, the fucking moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Put the HQ where Bezos wants to go anyway, the fucking moon. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Lord Bezos is giving up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Bezos Pulls Out And on Valentine's Day, no less. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: Bezos Pulls Out And on Valentine's Day, no less. Swing and a miss. Nice try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chris- said: Swing and a miss. Nice try though. 1/10 retort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just put the whole thing in NoVa. Pissing in an ocean of piss is better than ruining a good metro area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 just move it to the middle of nowhere and put all those farmers who are losing their farms to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Just put the whole thing in NoVa. @SFLUFAN endorses this idea, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Just put the whole thing in NoVa. YOU TAKE THAT SHIT BACK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 I'm ok with you people taking those jobs in nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 https://deadspin.com/conservative-d-c-is-a-bunch-of-weird-as-hell-nationals-1829233312 there’s nothing you can do to the DC metro area to make it worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just saw it on the news at the deli and people were cheering. This would've fucking destroyed the area including my music rehearsal warehouse which provides some of the last affordable music spaces at a decently reachable place in the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 My bold prediction is that NYC will survive without Amazon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 The US will be a better place when cities stop subsidizing corporations and sports teams relocating to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao 2.0 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I'm going to go ahead and take credit for this as it's obviously on account of my scathing post here last weekend. You're welcome, Queens. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Lol morning Joe people were mad this morning thinking these 150k jobs were going to be givien to lowly everyday people and ignore the fact that it will in all likelihood raise costs for for everything surrounding it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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