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SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 The Japanese list: -Arc the Lad -Arc the Lad 2 -Armored Core -Ridge Racer Type 4 -Intelligent Qube -Gradius Gaiden -XI [sái] -SaGa Frontier -G Darius -Jumping Flash -Super Puzzle Fighter IIX -Tekken 3 -Toshinden -Biohazard (RE1) Director's Cut -Parasite Eve -Final Fantasy VII International -Mr. Driller -Persona 1 -Metal Gear Solid -Wild Arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 No Toshinden 3, no Ten Count, this is bullshit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: No Toshinden 3, no Ten Count, this is bullshit! These are both my observations and some things pointed out on Reset that make a lot of sense: 1) I'm really glad they put some smaller games here. Intelligent Qube is an overlooked but fantastic first party game on the PS1 and its inclusion is awesome. 2) I get Crash and Spyro not being there because they're recently remade, and N-Sane trilogy has sold great. They make sense for the Clasic, but considering the remakes, I'd honestly rather them not use up slots and am glad they don't. 3) I now understand games like Gran Turismo/THPS not being on there due to car licensing and music licensing. 4) I think, though, that some sequels would have been better than what was put here. Twisted Metal 2 would have been a better inclusion than the first, even though I've played significantly more of the second and probably could stand to play more of the first. Same with GTA1 instead of GTA2, though I'd love to revisit either one. Toshinden is another example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 That Japanese list is way better. The U.S. list is kinda shit imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 American list is better than the Japanese list, but is still lackluster. Too many great games missing, replaced by mediocre games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 One thing I wonder is, can you do a 20-game PS1 list that's comprehensive for everyone? For the N64, I feel as if you could because it had significantly fewer games, but as long as you had Mario 64/SSB/Star Fox 64/Donkey Kong 64/Goldeneye (if it can be licensed for it)/Superman 64 just to fuck with people, you have a list with which everyone is satisfied. I dunno if I could make a 20-game list for the PS1 that would be universally approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Meh. I have many of the standouts and a working PS1. Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 No Silent Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 No Tomb Raider or SOTN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nublood Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm just gonna act like Castlevania SOTN is on the list because there's no way they would leave that off...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 It's not there, there, bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Konami/Sony just put Castlevania Requiem on the PS4, so I can see why they would leave it off. Still for $100, I would have like an additional 5 to 10 titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 When I think of what could go on a Playstation Classic, I think these could be there: Ace Combat Ace Combat 2 Alundra Ape Escape Arc the Lad Arc the Lad 2 Armored Core Armored Core 2 Battle Arena Toshinden Battle Arena Toshinden 2 Battle Arena Toshinden 3 Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Chrono Cross Cool Boarders Cool Boarders 2 Crash Bandicoot Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back Crash Bandicoot Warped Crash Team Racing Destruction Derby Dino Crisis Dino Crisis 2 Driver Einhander Final Fantasy VII Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy IX Final Fantasy Tactics G-Darius Gradius Gaiden Grand Theft Auto Grand Theft Auto 2 Gran Turismo Gran Turismo 2 Intelligent Qube Jet Moto Jet Moto 2 Jet Moto 3 Jumping Flash! Klonoa Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver Legend of Dragoon Legend of Legaia Lunar Metal Gear Solid Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee PaRappa the Rapper Persona 2: Innocent Sin (though this was only released in Japan) R4: Ridge Racer Type 4 Parasite Eve Parasite Eve 2 Rayman Resident Evil Resident Evil 2 Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Revelations: Persona Silent Hill Spyro the Dragon Spyro 2 Spyro 3 Star Ocean: The Second Story Street Fighter Alpha 3 Suikoden Suikoden 2 Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo Syphon Filter Syphon Filter 2 Syphon Filter 3 Tekken 2 Tekken 3 Tomba! Tomb Raider Tomb Raider 2 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 Twisted Metal Twisted Metal 2 Vagrant Story Valkyrie Profile Wild Arms Wild Arms 2 Wipeout 2097 Worms Armageddon Xenogears Now take out Gran Turismo/THPS if licensing is really that much of a headache (and that's highly probable). I think even at 30 games, it would be hard to make a list that doesn't have at least a few glaring omissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anzo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I loved intelligent Qube back in the day. Still not enough to get me to buy this however. MGS is a good inclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Anzo said: I loved intelligent Qube back in the day. Still not enough to get me to buy this however. MGS is a good inclusion. Intelligent Qube was nothing compared to Irritating Stick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 what a weak-ass list of games. for shame. except Wild Arms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Twisted Metal 1 instead of 2 seems like the worst choice here. The first game is pretty bad. 51 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: One thing I wonder is, can you do a 20-game PS1 list that's comprehensive for everyone? For the N64, I feel as if you could because it had significantly fewer games, but as long as you had Mario 64/SSB/Star Fox 64/Donkey Kong 64/Goldeneye (if it can be licensed for it)/Superman 64 just to fuck with people, you have a list with which everyone is satisfied. I dunno if I could make a 20-game list for the PS1 that would be universally approved. Including DK64 is how you make people unhappy. Most of that game is a straight up chore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Twisted Metal 1 instead of 2 seems like the worst choice here. The first game is pretty bad. Including DK64 is how you make people unhappy. Most of that game is a straight up chore. For the N64, I just think it has to be there just because you could probably fit 20 there without much trouble: 1. Super Mario 64 2. Pilotwings 64 3. Star Fox 64 4. Super Smash Bros 5. Pokemon Stadium 6. Pokemon Snap 7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 8. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 9. Diddy Kong Racing 10. Banjo Kazooie 11. Paper Mario 12. Kirby 64 13. Banjo-Tooie 14. Jet Force Gemini 15. Donkey Kong 64 16. Mario Kart 64 17. Mario Party 18. Ogre Battle 64 19. Harvest Moon 64 20. F-Zero X A few of those you could trade out for others (since Pokemon Stadium used your GameBoy Pokemon team, you might eliminate that and do something like 1080 Snowboarding or Wave Race), and stuff like Goldeneye/Perfect Dark may not make it due to licensing or not owning the IP anymore. Wrestling games wouldn't make it in. Otherwise, it's easier to do 20 N64 games than 20 PS1 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Based off that list, PS1 must have had a shit library Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: For the N64, I just think it has to be there just because you could probably fit 20 there without much trouble: 1. Super Mario 64 2. Pilotwings 64 3. Star Fox 64 4. Super Smash Bros 5. Pokemon Stadium 6. Pokemon Snap 7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 8. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 9. Diddy Kong Racing 10. Banjo Kazooie 11. Paper Mario 12. Kirby 64 13. Banjo-Tooie 14. Jet Force Gemini 15. Donkey Kong 64 16. Mario Kart 64 17. Mario Party 18. Ogre Battle 64 19. Harvest Moon 64 20. Wave Race 64 A few of those you could trade out for others, and stuff like Goldeneye/Perfect Dark may not make it due to licensing or not owning the IP anymore. Wrestling games wouldn't make it in. Otherwise, it's easier to do 20 N64 games than 20 PS1 games. I much prefer my list (below). No DK64 or Pokemon Stadium wasting space. No controller destroying Mario Party. More and better 3rd party games. Less wasted on Rare games unlikely to happen, or that have received higher-res ports. Spoiler 1. Zelda OoT 2. Zelda MM 3. Mario 64 4. Starfox 64 5. Paper Mario 6. Super Smash Bros 64 7. Ogre Battle 64 8. Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon 9. Mario Tennis 64 10. Mischief Makers 11. Mario Party 2 (or 3) 12. Bomberman 64 13. Sin & Punishment 14. Wave Race 64 15. Bomberman 64: The Second Attack 16. Mario Kart 64 17. F-Zero X 18. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards 19. Rayman 2: The Great Escape 20. Diddy Kong Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: I much prefer my list (below). No DK64 or Pokemon Stadium wasting space. No controller destroying Mario Party. More and better 3rd party games. Less wasted on Rare games unlikely to happen, or that have received higher-res ports. Hide contents 1. Zelda OoT 2. Zelda MM 3. Mario 64 4. Starfox 64 5. Paper Mario 6. Super Smash Bros 64 7. Ogre Battle 64 8. Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon 9. Mario Tennis 64 10. Mischief Makers 11. Mario Party 2 (or 3) 12. Bomberman 64 13. Sin & Punishment 14. Wave Race 64 15. Bomberman 64: The Second Attack 16. Mario Kart 64 17. F-Zero X 18. Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards 19. Rayman 2: The Great Escape 20. Diddy Kong Racing Yours sucks because I said so. Nah, it's good, but again, it's not drastically different. N64 just has a smaller library overall. Do a 30-game PS1 Classic and a 30-game N64 classic and you'll be able to non-controversially do the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Needs more Incredible Crisis and No One Can Stop Mr. Domino! 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: When I think of what could go on a Playstation Classic, I think these could be there: Should have included Tecmo's Deception and Destruction Derby 2 was the far superior game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Destruction Derby 2 was the far superior game. This too. DD1 felt like a prototype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Oh, and not one WipeOut game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 @SaysWho? I am sad that Tenchu 2, Colony Wars, G-Police, and Blood Omen:LoK did not make your extended list, but Jumping Flash! did.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, mikechorney said: @SaysWho? I am sad that Tenchu 2, Colony Wars, G-Police, and Blood Omen:LoK did not make your extended list, but Jumping Flash! did.... See how hard this is!?!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 X-Com was probably one of my most played Playstation games. I bought it twice because the disc got worn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: X-Com was probably one of my most played Playstation games. I bought it twice because the disc got worn out. Does it count, or was it a re-release? The PSX version came out a year and half after the other versions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I think it’s a decent list. Personally i have access to all of the classic PS1 games I care to go back to, since Sony at least carried PS1 games to the PS3 + Vita (TV for me). The Vita TV is basically my PS1, and I actually really love that little thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I would have dropped $100 for a PSX that supported my nostalgia. That list has about 5 games that I would want to spend any time in (FFVII, MGS, Wild Arms, Twisted Metal and R4). The rest is mostly filler to me. So I will pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number305 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: For the N64, I just think it has to be there just because you could probably fit 20 there without much trouble: 1. Super Mario 64 2. Pilotwings 64 3. Star Fox 64 4. Super Smash Bros 5. Pokemon Stadium 6. Pokemon Snap 7. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 8. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 9. Diddy Kong Racing 10. Banjo Kazooie 11. Paper Mario 12. Kirby 64 13. Banjo-Tooie 14. Jet Force Gemini 15. Donkey Kong 64 16. Mario Kart 64 17. Mario Party 18. Ogre Battle 64 19. Harvest Moon 64 20. F-Zero X A few of those you could trade out for others (since Pokemon Stadium used your GameBoy Pokemon team, you might eliminate that and do something like 1080 Snowboarding or Wave Race), and stuff like Goldeneye/Perfect Dark may not make it due to licensing or not owning the IP anymore. Wrestling games wouldn't make it in. Otherwise, it's easier to do 20 N64 games than 20 PS1 games. Pretty good list. I don't think Goldeneye will make it. There have been lots of problems licensing that game. For that fact MS will need to be involved for several of those Rare games to make it in. MS has been trying to act like a good guy lately so maybe they strike up a licensing deal. You have to include Wave Race. That was an awesome release game back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'd prefer a Playstation Classic made by Square Enix over this one made by Sony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Decent list, there is no way they would please everyone and ps1 gets stuck in a bad phase of licensing hell. I’ll probably grab a jp unit for fun but sad they got parasite eve and we didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodimus Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Nice list. I like the Gradius and Darius and Parasite Eve on the Japanese release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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