Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The camps have undergone a rapid expansion since in the last few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I think this is just what the world needs in 2018, major Islamophobia from China giving rise to potential attacks by Islamists in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 7:11 AM, Comet said: I think this is just what the world needs in 2018, major Islamophobia from China giving rise to potential attacks by Islamists in China. What does terrorism in China achieve? They don't have any freedoms to take away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-denies-having-concentration-camps-tells-us-to-stop-interfering/ar-AAAZuhw?ocid=AMZN Quote US Assistant Secretary of Defense Randall Schriver first made the remarks during a press briefing on Friday, saying as many as three million Muslim-majority Uyghur people may be held inside the massive Chinese government camps. "The Communist Party is using the security forces for mass imprisonment of Chinese Muslims in concentration camps," Schriver said. The disputed term is closely associated with the death camps of 1940s Nazi Germany, where up to six million people lost their lives. In recent years, the government has detained large numbers of Uyghurs in what former detainees describe as re-education centers with prison-like conditions, aimed at eradicating Uyghur cultural and religious practices and instilling Communist Party propaganda—a practice described by one as "cultural genocide." However, Beijing has repeatedly denied the Uyghur citizens are being held in such large numbers and against their will, calling the camps instead "vocational education training centers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Revealed: new evidence of China's mission to raze the mosques of Xinjiang https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/07/revealed-new-evidence-of-chinas-mission-to-raze-the-mosques-of-xinjiang?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Once Maoists, always Maoists I guess. I'll just count down when China gets nuked by one of their Islamic neighbors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Man of Culture said: European and American politicians should be paying very close attention to what goes on here. They won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 40 minutes ago, Man of Culture said: Unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, darkness35 said: Once Maoists, always Maoists I guess. I'll just count down when China gets nuked by one of their Islamic neighbors Nuclear wars are easy to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Man of Culture said: What is interesting is how surprised some people are over this. The writing has been on the wall for the better part of 10 years. https://ctc.usma.edu/uighur-dissent-and-militancy-in-chinas-xinjiang-province/ I don't think it's surprising that it's happening, but the relatively recent increase in the scale is what is most shocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Man of Culture said: This raises some interesting implications. Based on various Islamic doctrines, once a parcel of land becomes owned and operated by Muslims, it is always and forever Allah's land, never to be mistreated and always to be used in a productive manner (e.g. worship). European and American politicians should be paying very close attention to what goes on here. I would say this goes beyond narrow religious doctrines; there are more universal psychological forces at work. Humans have not historically responded well to totalitarian destruction of what they consider to be communal space by state or state-like organs, regardless of the religion or culture they belong to. I'm pretty sure if a town full of secularists had one of its biggest community centers (call it the local 'YMSA', where everyone takes their kids to participate in community activities or just go swimming) unilaterally destroyed by their national government, without being consulted or having any say in the matter, they would likely be upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 A few commentators and one senator from a minority party dont represent "the Mexican population." Stop the bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodimus Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 What country is out there today that could pull weight on China and stand against locking up brown people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 @Lucian I was taking issue with you declaring that the Mexican population rejected AMLO's proposal with next to 0 evidence, while also saying that Muslim leaders would definitely endorse what a Muslim community leader (not even an Imam lol) in Seville has to say (again, 0 evidence provided). It's just a whole lot of conjecture on your part brochacho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, Man of Culture said: Sure, I don't think anyone is discounting that. Islam is an extra layer on top of that and allows for generations of grievance seeking where other nations/groups of people would eventually cool down. I would suggest reading this paper on the subject: Land ownership from the Islamic Perspective You can see the difference in these two articles Mexican President seeks apology from Spain for the conquest of Mexico. Muslim leaders want Spain to apologize for reconquista I can guarantee you that middle eastern muslims would positively endorse what their leaders are seeking, meanwhile, the Mexican population is denouncing their own president's demands because they realize how stupid they are. The only difference here is one group has religious authority and the other does not. Edit: the fact that this is currently happening in modernity with a multitude of attacks and counter attacks by jihadists and white terrorists, it makes for an interesting scenario when the Uyghers decide to fight back. Will they seek an apology? Financial recompense? Or will they become sufficiently radicalized to consider suicide bombings and other forms of retaliation? And when will that retaliation stop? Until they get their land back? Until the Chinese stop trying to "reeducate" them? Will it become global? Will it stop or will it be remembered and used as excuses for further attacks 100 years from now after we've all been long dead and buried? China isn't going to respond to Islamic terror on their the same way the west does and preach tolerance and acceptance while drone striking targets in Afghanistan. China's response would be swift and brutal. Islamic terrorists have learned they can push around The West. I don't think they will find they can push around China. China will fight back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It comes as no surprise to me that some are keen on painting an entire population in a monolithic way, and that the future scenario to consider consists of this population being uniformly violent as the only option. Not just to China, but the US because reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 Beijing barely gives a damn about the vast majority of the overwhelmingly Han population so it's not a stretch to say that the wholesale liquidation of its Turkic population would not cause a ripple of moral reservations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Man of Culture said: European and American politicians should be paying very close attention to what goes on here. Im sure they are, but they will not take the lessons from it that we think they should.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Wade Zuckerberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Boyle5150 said: Wade Zuckerberg Oh, if only. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Dodger said: China isn't going to respond to Islamic terror on their the same way the west does and preach tolerance and acceptance while drone striking targets in Afghanistan. China's response would be swift and brutal. Islamic terrorists have learned they can push around The West. I don't think they will find they can push around China. China will fight back. Well the West is constrained by democratic institutions (however imperfect) as well as a belief in most of the basic doctrines of liberalism. (in the sense of individual freedom and basic universal rights and liberties being ‘natural, or, for the less secular, ‘god-given’) The Chinese state does not operate under these constraints, partially owing to the precedents set by thousands of years of uninterrupted imperial rule that elapsed only relatively recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: The Chinese state does not operate under these constraints, partially owing to the precedents set by thousands of years of uninterrupted imperial rule that elapsed only relatively recently. And one could easily argue that they are still under a form of "imperial rule". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: And one could easily argue that they are still under a form of "imperial rule". Lol, white people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Jose said: @Lucian I was taking issue with you declaring that the Mexican population rejected AMLO's proposal with next to 0 evidence, while also saying that Muslim leaders would definitely endorse what a Muslim community leader (not even an Imam lol) in Seville has to say (again, 0 evidence provided). It's just a whole lot of conjecture on your part brochacho. Wait when did Lucian come back???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: The Chinese state does not operate under these constraints, partially owing to the precedents set by thousands of years of uninterrupted imperial rule that elapsed only relatively recently. The Communist party is arguably still a dynastic rule, just that they have more resources and authority to somehow impose more surveillance and manpower to root out dissidents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 https://womenintheworld.com/2019/03/11/iranian-lawyer-who-defended-womens-right-to-remove-hijab-gets-38-years-148-lashes/?fbclid=IwAR2jevNNQjlufQVp_DJ1NHetW6lP_ApDFsSFKttFEbcjq8lkqieDNrzsX1U Lol, brown people. I have extremely low expectations for people of color (herp). Ideology has nothing to do with it (derp). Islamism is literally as bad as nazism. Well unless you believe child molestation is something to be revered. Then by all means let’s all continue to malign such a large group of people... because if you criticize a religion then you criticize a race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, darkness35 said: Wait when did Lucian come back???? Lucian was always here, inside each and every one of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyle5150 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Lucian was always here, inside each and every one of us. He's been inside you for a while now... proper fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 gachiBASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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