Jwheel86 Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:58 PM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 09:02 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:02 PM 2 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: lots of Hez fighters getting on Delta flights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted Tuesday at 09:04 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:04 PM 2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: lots of Hez fighters getting on Delta flights? Hezbollah operations in South America: what we know WWW.FRANCE24.COM The arrest in Brazil this week of two people accused of planning "terrorist attacks" has put a spotlight on alleged South American operations by Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, which Israel says orchestrated… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 09:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:24 PM 19 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Hezbollah operations in South America: what we know WWW.FRANCE24.COM The arrest in Brazil this week of two people accused of planning "terrorist attacks" has put a spotlight on alleged South American operations by Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, which Israel says orchestrated… SUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted Tuesday at 09:32 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:32 PM The most obvious answer is they modified a crate of pagers and then used an inside guy to have them mixed in like a normal shipment of new equipment. These guys have probably been walking around with bombs in their pockets for months. There's no way they figured out how to make unmodified pagers explode with deadly force remotely. The worst they could do is start a battery fire which would not kill anyone and is not really plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 09:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:36 PM Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 09:39 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 09:39 PM 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of guys. Except for the dead 10 year-old girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 09:40 PM 7 minutes ago, ort said: The most obvious answer is they modified a crate of pagers and then used an inside guy to have them mixed in like a normal shipment of new equipment. These guys have probably been walking around with bombs in their pockets for months. There's no way they figured out how to make unmodified pagers explode with deadly force remotely. The worst they could do is start a battery fire which would not kill anyone and is not really plausible. I like the theory that Hezbolla modified them and gave to their people as a way to destroy evidence later. Someone just found the kill switch on all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:04 PM 24 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Except for the dead 10 year-old girl. It was probably Israel, so it’s fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted Tuesday at 10:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:06 PM 33 minutes ago, ort said: The most obvious answer is they modified a crate of pagers and then used an inside guy to have them mixed in like a normal shipment of new equipment. These guys have probably been walking around with bombs in their pockets for months. There's no way they figured out how to make unmodified pagers explode with deadly force remotely. The worst they could do is start a battery fire which would not kill anyone and is not really plausible. These are pagers. You can power a pager with a AAA battery for a few days. There's no way the battery could be overloaded while NOT plugged in to the point of killing someone. 25 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: I like the theory that Hezbolla modified them and gave to their people as a way to destroy evidence later. Someone just found the kill switch on all of them. It would be crazy to make the explosive strong enough to kill someone. There are self destructive electronics out there and there's little more than smoke and a spark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 10:08 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:08 PM 2 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: It would be crazy to make the explosive strong enough to kill someone. There are self destructive electronics out there and there's little more than smoke and a spark Hello, FBI? I have someone to report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM What if the pagers’ cases themselves were made out of explosive plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM Even LiOn batteries catch fire. They don’t explode like the videos on social media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted Tuesday at 10:19 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:19 PM If you packed a bunch of explosive behind say, the little LCD screen, would the people running the airport scanners even notice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted Tuesday at 10:38 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:38 PM I think they were just trying to page Dr. Beat to let him know there was an emergency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 10:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:43 PM 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Except for the dead 10 year-old girl. This attack killed 8 members of a terrorist organization, and reportedly injured 2,750 of them -- 200 critically. Certainly a much more precise attack than the Hezbollah rocket attack that killed 12 Druze children (and was not fired at a legitimate target) just a few months ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted Tuesday at 10:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:45 PM 25 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: If you packed a bunch of explosive behind say, the little LCD screen, would the people running the airport scanners even notice? The scanners do 3d now, and I believe can even recognize different materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 10:46 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:46 PM Does anyone believe that 3D scanners are in use at the Beirut airport? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 10:54 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 10:54 PM 7 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: This attack killed 8 members of a terrorist organization, and reportedly injured 2,750 of them -- 200 critically. Certainly a much more precise attack than the Hezbollah rocket attack that killed 12 Druze children (and was not fired at a legitimate target) just a few months ago. Do you honestly believe that all nearly 3,000 injuries are members of Hezbollah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 10:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:55 PM 2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Do you honestly believe that all nearly 3,000 injuries are members of Hezbollah? No. I heard the Iranian ambassador was also injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 10:57 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 10:57 PM Just now, AbsolutSurgen said: I heard the Iranian ambassador was also injured. Let me rephrase that question: do you believe that all 3,000 injuries constitute legitimate targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:59 PM Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Let me rephrase that question: do you believe that all 3,000 injuries constitute legitimate targets? From what the media is reporting, these were pagers issues by Hezbollah/Iran to members of their organization. Do you believe these pagers were issued to people not associated with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 11:01 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:01 PM 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: From what the media is reporting, these were pagers issues by Hezbollah/Iran to members of their organization. Do you believe these pagers were issued to people not associated with them? I believe that individuals were injured who were in proximity to those to whom they were issued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 11:05 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:05 PM Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I believe that individuals were injured who were in proximity to those to whom they were issued. We know the daughter of one terrorist was killed. I haven't seen reports of others. I have also seen multiple videos of these things exploding, and not harming people standing directly beside them. I don't know how many people in proximity to these things have been injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 11:07 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:07 PM 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: We know the daughter of one terrorist was killed. I haven't seen reports of others. I have also seen multiple videos of these things exploding, and not harming people standing directly beside them. I don't know how many people in proximity to these things have been injured. But you do admit that there is at least the possibility that a non-insignificant number of the injuries could be non-legitimate targets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted Tuesday at 11:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:11 PM Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: But you do admit that there is the possibility that a non-insignificant number of the injuries could be non-legitimate targets? Anything is possible. Given the videos being shared, I don't believe it is probable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:12 PM 57 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Hello, FBI? I have someone to report I'm just saying, if you're looking to keep your data safe in a pager then you want to destroy a single chip of combined RAM and storage. You don't need a grenade to burn up 1MB of silicon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted Tuesday at 11:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:24 PM 15 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: But you do admit that there is at least the possibility that a non-insignificant number of the injuries could be non-legitimate targets? Not to defend Israel, but can you think of another way to knock out an enemies entire command structure with less risk to civilians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 11:27 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 11:27 PM 1 minute ago, Jwheel86 said: Not to defend Israel, but can you think of another way to knock out an enemies entire command structure with less risk to civilians? No, I really can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted Tuesday at 11:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:34 PM 50 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Does anyone believe that 3D scanners are in use at the Beirut airport? I mean, given the stability of the country and surrounding region, probably? EDIT: A quick google brought up this article from 2019: Beirut Airport introduces new security system WWW.AIRPORT-TECHNOLOGY.COM Beirut Airport in Lebanon is set to start operating a new security system that was funded by the EU. Sounds like their security systems were upgraded pretty recently, though the article doesn’t specifically mention scanners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM 36 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: I mean, given the stability of the country and surrounding region, probably? EDIT: A quick google brought up this article from 2019: Beirut Airport introduces new security system WWW.AIRPORT-TECHNOLOGY.COM Beirut Airport in Lebanon is set to start operating a new security system that was funded by the EU. Sounds like their security systems were upgraded pretty recently, though the article doesn’t specifically mention scanners. The internet tells me their scanners were donated by Germany. The internet also tells me that airport is a mess in terms of security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted yesterday at 01:39 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:39 AM While Palestine is under rubble does anyone really think this was a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM For whatever it’s worth, Jan Ochoa of giant bomb used to work behind the scenes on Mythbusters. He said he would consistently get flagged going through airport security for detecting explosives on his clothes or bags, and that was just from being around for the show, not actively handling them directly. If they’re flagging a guy who was around when other people were dealing with explosives, I’d find it hard to believe they couldn’t find an actual explosive in a device no matter how small. Different airports and all that noise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted yesterday at 03:02 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:02 AM 9 hours ago, Uaarkson said: And at least one child, so far. I care as much as hezbollah does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted yesterday at 05:35 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:35 AM 2 hours ago, TUFKAK said: I care as much as hezbollah does. That's what death cults do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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